re: SEC and Big East tied for #1 in current bowl standings

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if the CUSA had 10 bowl eligible teams they would fare just as well in his system.

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assuming all 10 got into a bowl game which is unlikely since the SEC has more tie ins

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believe they would. As I stated before if 10 of CUSA's teams became bowl eligible they did so by beating FBS of other conferences and causing those conferences to have a lack of bowl eligible teams to meet their tie-ins.

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they MIGHT,, thats certainably a reasonable assumption,, but theres NO doubt 9 of the 10 SEC teams would due to the tie ins

that "system" is unfair since one team with the same record might not have the same opportunity

and regardless ONCE AGAIN,,, for the frickING UMPTEENTH TIME

that is NOT the topic of the thread

his formula is

im using this imaginary scenarios to point out the flaws in his system not argue the Bowl System

frick

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This is how I would do it.
Each conference score would be each individual game total added together with schedule included =
opponents win percentage (prebowl)teams will not be penalized for winning their bowl game.
If conference team wins multiply total by 1.33
Ex:
Penn State Would be worth (10/12) .8333
and if LSU wins it would be a total value of 1.1083
Then all the individual games would be added together for each conference.

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but do you reward a conference for a team merely making a bowl game?

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but do you reward a conference for a team merely making a bowl game?

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Yes, I think you do, The problem with the bowl system the way it is set up is tonight you have Kentucky (8th to 10th best team in the SEC) playing Clemson (2nd to 3rd best team in the ACC)
I think you have to account for that, what i think is that you may make the multiplier a higher number, and maybe even higher for BCS, because all of those teams should be evenly matched.

Say 1.5 and 1.67

ITs merit based when you make it to the bowl game, Only three teams didn't go this year who were able, ULL, ULM, and Notre Dame.

I don't think it is unreasonable to give a conference credit for making it to a bowl game. Conference tie-in's has very little to do with it unless you are in the Sun-belt.

Bottom line, if Kentucky pulls off the upset, they should get a bonus for doing it against a much higher ranked team.

I based this system roughly off of the Louisiana High School power point system

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if a 6-6 SEC team can get a bowl game ahead of a 8-4 PAC10,, or 9-3 C-USA because of tie ins then its a tilted field




did this happen?

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it very easliy could,,

again,, if you want to argue the bowl system,,do so in another thread thats not what Im arguing against

im using examples to illustrate when you give 'points" to a confernce for simply filling a predetermined bowl game slot,, you cannot say that losing more games than another conference plays makes one conference a winner of some Bowl Season

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thats THIS year,, thats NOT the point,, what if in another year the SEC had 9 teams finsh 6-6 or better and the MWC had 6 teams finish 9-3 or better and further assume all other conferences fill thier alotment this is not unreasonable it could happen . and it DID in the 90's before conference tie ins the SEC would have 9 teams in a bowl game

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OK, that was back when there were not as many bowl games.

Just remember that when you play a game one team has to lose.(I know its a hard concept) If it is an SEC team that plays a MWC then obviously one of those two will lose. Thus making it harder for that team to make it to a bowl game. My best guess is if 9 teams from the MWC go to a bowl then it is going to knock some of the big six ineligible.

Your argument that it happened before is not valid because the number of bowl games have increased. I have never seen someone get so hyped up over a hypothetical situation that will never happen. Now I remember why I only have 60 post in 5 months.

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I am all from the MWC having an automatic bid to the BCS, but that isn't the topic.

So what is your idea for the best way to decide how to pick the champion.
If you say just on number of wins, what happens it the sunbelt wins its only game, then do they deserve the trophy.

im simply asserting that a conference having a advantage because of automatic tie in should not give them a leg up on which conference has the better bowl season

esp if they lose a majority of thier games

you want to reward losing

Im saying only give points for a win,, HOW those points are determined is debatable

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sure you could because they sent more teams to bowl games. Did any MWC teams get left out? How come the MWC didn't send more?

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that could mean the SEC had a better regular season but thats not the debate

were talking about who would have the better bowl season

the sec and acc have 9 bowl ties in apiece,
mostly due to the location of the bowl games and the schools

more fans turn out for games if they have to travel less

that OK,, thats the business of a bowl game to make $$$$

but we're discussing a mythical bowl season winner

rewarding a conference for placing a losing team in a bowl game simply because the campus is closer is a piss poor way to determine which conference had the better post season success

reward the win,, and only the win, make it based upon percentage of games won vs games played

then rank the bowl game in order of overall wins of the two particiapating teams

better bowl game,, better opponent ,more points for a win

no points for a loss