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re: SEC and ACC expansion
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:42 am to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:42 am to Pilot Tiger
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yall are assuming that adding teams will ONLY split up the current revenue. You dont think ESPN or CBS would restructure the current deal to add more years??
this is the thinking - whatever changes go down will cause restructuring of television deals. Whether that's just for the PAC and Big 10 - or if that ends up including the SEC and other conferences as well
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:43 am to Pilot Tiger
If the BCS would get rid of the "only 2 teams from each conference can play in the BCS" I could totally see how expanding would benefit the conference
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:44 am to molsusports
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the Big 10 revenues are now showing the opposite
tv revenues
and the big10 region loves football
in the top 20 i think there are more SEC teams. i could be wrong
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:46 am to molsusports
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whatever changes go down will cause restructuring of television deals.
this is potentially bad for the SEC if the pac16 forms
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Whether that's just for the PAC and Big 10
the big10 has its shite set
the pac10's tv deals are running out...the same with the big12. that's why this merger is being floated. there wont' be a renegotiation
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:47 am to Pilot Tiger
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If the BCS would get rid of the "only 2 teams from each conference can play in the BCS" I could totally see how expanding would benefit the conference
if the pac16 and big10 expansions happen, the BCS will have to be re-worked
there will only be 5 BCS conferences and 1 will have twice the teams as another
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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there wont' be a renegotiation
I'm not an expert but the thinking seems to be there would be a renegotiation - because the value of teh product would have substantially changed
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
so if the BCS gets reworked. Expanding would be huge. More teams playing in BCS games = more money for the conference, potentially off setting having to split up the current revenue. Also, it would appear that the tv contracts would be reworked. I dont see how this would hurt the SEC if it expanded.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:50 am to molsusports
quote:It seems like there would be some sort of clause in the contract to protect the SEC in the event of an expansion or reduction in members
I'm not an expert but the thinking seems to be there would be a renegotiation - because the value of teh product would have substantially changed
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:51 am to Pilot Tiger
the bcs and/or playoffs wouldn't hurt the SEC IMO
What presents a threat is the possibility that Big 10 and PAC revenues could outpace SEC revenues over the next decade - that would mean a long term competitive disadvantage
What presents a threat is the possibility that Big 10 and PAC revenues could outpace SEC revenues over the next decade - that would mean a long term competitive disadvantage
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:54 am to molsusports
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I'm not an expert but the thinking seems to be there would be a renegotiation - because the value of teh product would have substantially changed
Maybe; depending on the Pac10 model. Advertisers are guaranteed ratings. If broadcasters can't deliver the GRP's they have to provide free slots and broadcasters HATE that.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:54 am to Pilot Tiger
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so if the BCS gets reworked. Expanding would be huge. More teams playing in BCS games = more money for the conference,
BCS money isn't that huge once it gets split up over a conference
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Also, it would appear that the tv contracts would be reworked.
we just signed the deal, and i'm worried if the pac16 forms, ESPN may want to go with them. then the SEC would be FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:55 am to Pilot Tiger
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It seems like there would be some sort of clause in the contract to protect the SEC in the event of an expansion or reduction in members
why would ESPN agree to that?
They signed the SEC because they were signing up the most important/successful conference in football.
I don't think they'd have an out under normal circumstances but if something happened like Florida, Alabama, and LSU left teh conference it wouldn't be the same product. And if they added major schools of national interest (e.g. A&M, Miami) that would also affect the product value (in the opposite way of course)
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:55 am to arrakis
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Advertisers are guaranteed ratings. If broadcasters can't deliver the GRP's they have to provide free slots and broadcasters HATE that.
that's why the pac16 wants t cable network, so that cable systems are the primary source of income
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:what if 4 teams are playing in BCS games every year?
BCS money isn't that huge once it gets split up over a conference
quote:SEC + 4 >>>>>>> Pac 16
we just signed the deal, and i'm worried if the pac16 forms, ESPN may want to go with them.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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we just signed the deal, and i'm worried if the pac16 forms, ESPN may want to go with them. then the SEC would be FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED
word is that it would be a fox-based network like the BTN is
obviously they would also have an ESPN deal but it wouldn't be like the SEC deal
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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that's why the pac16 wants t cable network, so that cable systems are the primary source of income
They can have multiple revenue streams...Subscription revenue, cable ad revenue, and broadcast TV revenue. The Pac10 studied the Big10 model and the SEC model. You know they'll use that info to build theirs.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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somebody tell me what the SEC gains by adding 2 more teams that aren't UNC and Duke
assuming the SEC doesn't take UT and TAMU?
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:06 am to The Easter Bunny
With all the speculation about other conferences, SEC fans should not lose sight they'll be eating steak for a long time and steak is good. On the other hand, whatever is left of the Big XII will be dining on Hamburger Helper.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:08 am to arrakis
ISU can expect Ramen for a long time I'd think
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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they'd help with academics
they'd split up our money 1 more way, which decreases revenue for the 12 current teams. bad for the SEC
Adding a team like Miami would increase revenue far more then the amount you lose by having another team to divide for. This isn't adding a Kentucky or Vandy to the football schedule, this is adding a Florida. All of their games would be televised.
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