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re: RIP Birmingham Stallions

Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:29 am to
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30721 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:29 am to
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"Who thought building a 47,000 seat stadium in Birmingham was a good idea??? @TheUFL, UAB and a USL team and you build a 47k seat stadium???"


Birmingham has had a large stadium available for generations. The primary tenant plays D1 football, so 12-15K isn’t gonna cut it. They didn’t build a new stadium to accommodate Spring football. No city is doing that.

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21719 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:34 am to
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Birmingham


The problem has always been and will always be the city of Birmingham. It never fails that any new proposal that comes up in the city is going to be dropped right in the middle of or right next to some dangerous hood. Every single thing they touch feels cheap and in most cases ratchet. Look at how these morons ran the World Games in 2022.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83887 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:36 am to
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The primary tenant plays D1 football, so 12-15K isn’t gonna cut it.


When is the last time UAB has reached 20k?
Posted by Aforem7
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
1153 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:37 am to
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Not really. I think St. Louis is the only team that reguarly had large crowds


Unrelated to Birmingham but I went to St. Louis early last year and stayed downtown. Was an absolute ghost town Friday night, then all of a sudden around 10 am saturday morning downtown was packed with people seeminly within minutes. People kept doing this fricking screeching thing and I had no idea what was happening because I forgot that the UFL even existing. Game happened and after the game downtown immediately returned to a ghost town. Was such an odd experience, but damn those people loved their Battlehawks
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
42097 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:39 am to
They average about 20k per year the last 3-4 years, even with how shitty Dilfer did. Would love to see them get fun to watch again.

I've said for a while they should lean more into doing some thursday night games and such. I think they could get more of the auburn/alabama fans at a thursday night game. Play into the thirsty thursday type stuff that the minor league baseball teams do. You just aren't going to compete on saturdays attendance wise.
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 11:42 am
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30721 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:50 am to
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When is the last time UAB has reached 20k?


They still need to have the illusion of bigger crowds and maximize actual ticket sales. I’m not saying 47,000 is ideal, but 12-15K won’t allow you to maintain D1 status.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28790 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:57 am to
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When is the last time UAB has reached 20k?


According to Wikipedia, October 4, 2025, against Army. They also reached the 20,000+ mark against Alabama State to start the 2025 season, again according to Wikipedia.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61843 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:13 pm to
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This is what the UFL’s co-owner said last week:


That guy is a fricking idiot and is constantly berating people for not showing up to a product he's done a very good job of making it extremely hard to carte about.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117963 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:30 pm to
wow... proof of what a shite product the UFL is, because with every other league that has has a team in Birmingham it usually had great numbers and some of the strongest fan support
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
33011 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5870 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 1:15 pm to
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me and my son attend monster jam every spring and love it. It does feel like the stadium is a bit big though considering what all it's used for.


47,000 is awfully big for what's offered there and the city size. I can imagine that they felt they were setting the city up to draw and host larger events, but it seems like a 25,000-30,000 seat stadium would have been more fitting for the circumstances.

It's also likely that building a place with 20,000 more seats didn't cost much more than building a 25,000 seat place. Scaling and costs aren't directly related.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
42097 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 1:44 pm to
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It's also likely that building a place with 20,000 more seats didn't cost much more than building a 25,000 seat place. Scaling and costs aren't directly related.


This was discussed when the plans were originally done. They looked at a 30-35k seat stadium, which realistically is probably the smallest they would need to go. The 45k seat stadium initial plans were around $175M and I think once it all came in, was right around $200M. The 30-35k was not going to be much less expensive.

The stadium has shown the ability to fit its capacity, in other areas besides football. I think the bowl committee hasn't done a great job in recent years with their team selections, plus bowl games are just becoming far less popular. Pre-covid when this was all planned, the bowl game more than justified a stadium need of this size. UAB has just been a curious one. I think it was a pretty sound assumption to make that when they were averaging 20-25k or so a game at legion, probably a 7-10k increase just one the location being better, was reasonable. If they got good again, could go even higher. They just completely decimated any momentum of their program re-start though.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26610 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 1:52 pm to
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He argued the city would be better served by a stadium with a capacity of 12,000 to 15,000 seats.
That’s a high school stadium in Texas
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
42097 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:01 pm to
Wonder if he will have the same type of comments about teams like Orlando? They need a great 6-8k seat stadium instead of their 20k one, really create a great energy and atmosphere then

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26610 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:12 pm to
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Wonder if he will have the same type of comments about teams like Orlando?


That stadium was built for an MLS team to be the primary tenant and their attendance averages around 85-90% capacity.

Protective Stadium was built for UAB football to be the primary tenant, but UAB attendance averages below 50% of the stadium capacity.
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
148193 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:19 pm to
Birmingham wasn't the only team cut either... Houston eliminated too

Oklahoma City about to get a team though

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This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 2:22 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
42097 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:20 pm to
You're missing the point.
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
3162 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:24 pm to
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I think Birmingham has had a team in literally every non NFL pro league since the 70s

Just missed one, the original UFL in 2009-2012.

The rest:

WFL, 1974

WFL, 1975

American Football Association, 1979

USFL, 1983-85

WLAF, 1991-1992

CFL, 1995

XFL, 2001

AAF, 2019

USFL 2 and UFL 2, 2022-2026
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 2:42 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
42097 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:41 pm to
I do think it’s funny too that they basically just cut the legs out from under the team. They float a rumor last year that the team will be moved, right after Holtz retires. Then after petitioned, they say it won’t happen. Then the league goes out and hired AJ McCarron as the head coach. Basically saying we don’t give a shite about your team and are going to tank them. And we are supposed to be shocked nobody went to the games when the writing was on the wall
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61843 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:08 pm to
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Birmingham wasn't the only team cut either... Houston eliminated too

Oklahoma City about to get a team though


This kind of shite is why the league is arse.

Why in the world would anyone ever get exited to support a league that has teams "move" every year?
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 3:09 pm
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