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re: Rice could field a really good football program, if they wanted to.

Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:37 am to
The student body is under 5000 and not really a football fan sort of group. My daughter got accepted but ended up going elsewhere after talking to a girl from her high school who was a freshman there. She said the social life was ;like if the uncoolest kids in band threw a party when their parents were home.

Average atttendance at football games is about 18,500 in one of the largest cities in America. UTEP, UTSA, Texas State and North Texas all averaged more fans in 2024. Houston had almost ten thousand more per game.

Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:58 am to
They've been very good at baseball before, and I've always been a bit surprised they were never all that good at basketball.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:55 pm to
Yep. Growing up they were a team to deal with for sure.

They could be again.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17663 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:25 pm to
The only sport Rice should focus on is baseball.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61013 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:41 pm to
Endowments are not used for football however they could be like Tulane perhaps. There’s a lot of talent in Houston, they could scoop up some of those 2-3 stars, undersized guys that are good players
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
49680 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

I think admission standards will always tie hands behind the back.



They could do what Tulane did. Create a place for the athletes. Tulane athletes do not go to Tulane itself, they go to Tulane University college, which has lower standards.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 2:29 pm to
Rice was asked to do that by Harbaugh.


Rice said no, emphatically
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 3:31 pm to
I wish Rice was really good, I enjoy going to games at that pit of a stadium, it sucks but it's a throwback. Realistically though Rice would probably get rid of football before they made major attempts at being a top program. I bet they'd kick arse at cricket though.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 4:29 pm to
Sight lines are still amazing, Brown & Root did an amazing job in a short time
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 4:29 pm to
Universities can't just move endowment money around as they wish. Almost all of that money is earmarked for specific programs, initiatives, and facilities due to donors' directives. The relatively tiny amounts that aren't earmarked keep libraries subscribed to resources and dorms from falling apart.

Beyond that, endowments aren't a measure of a university's willingness or capacity to fund football. That's why some institutions are investigating the desperate measure of private equity and considering spinning off their athletics as a for-profit entity.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30108 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 4:35 pm to
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Tulane athletes do not go to Tulane itself, they go to Tulane University college, which has lower standards.


Great to see what has become of higher education in America
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 5:18 pm to
I like games at Rice more than NRG. Rice Stadium has character
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 5:19 pm to
Except for the service academies and Rice
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10683 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

he real kicker would be booster support, but I doubt many of the big wigs would ever open the wallets for Rice Football

So your entire OP was an exercise in pointlessness.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:19 pm to
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Rice Stadium has character
Well it has great sight lines, there's not a bad seat in the stadium. Old timers will remember the pee walls

I started going to games in 71. I saw Tommy Kramer and Earl Cooper. Trevor Cobb, Dillard, Casey


Saw Rive beat the ags , horns, every other SWC foe

Sure Rice isnt a football powerhouse, never will be, but we still have true student athletes, something we all are beginning to miss


Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2957 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 9:12 am to
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Except for the service academies and Rice


Which is why Rice should go back to the Hatfield model and operate like a service academy. Option based offense, slant and angle defense, recruit project kids and take transfer portal P4 defensive players.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5616 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Most of the wealthier alums don't really care about sportsball though (I can't say that I blame them)



Rice has an undergrad enrollment of 4,776 undergrad and roughly 20% of that enrollment is from India, China or South Korea.

The undergrad portion of that is important because graduate students don't really carry the school affiliation with them as sports fans.

End of the day, I'm actually surprised that Rice actually keeps Division 1 programs, because there is little alumni fan base and not much brand presence. Also with so few alumni, even if they are wealthy, the raw numbers don't really support the kind of infrastructure you'd need to find sustained success.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29212 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:39 pm to
There's definitely money amongst graduates, whether their underground or graduate programs.

But like others have stated, those alums would have to care enough about Rice football to start putting money into the program, sponsorships, serious NIL dollars, etc., and you would need university leadership to not be scared that doing such would cause football to become "too important" for what some of them view as an Ivy League of the South school.
Posted by Magnus
San Diego
Member since Sep 2019
2054 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:40 pm to
same with Stanford, we choose not too
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11928 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:49 pm to
They have a really great library that is open to the public. They even allow people to park on campus and don't ticket them for the money.
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