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re: Retroactively predict the CFB playoff participants each year since 2000 and the results
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:14 am to cbree88
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:14 am to cbree88
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2009: Alabama, Texas, Florida, Boise State
Texas defeats Alabama in final game narrowly because the Colt McCoy injury never happens
It's FAR more likely that Florida is the one who injures McCoy.
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 4:27 am to RLDSC FAN
08 USC and UF were so similar. Uf did the same vs OM but was on a roll after that loss.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 5:58 am to cbree88
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2012: Notre Dame, Alabama, Oregon, Florida
Alabama defeats Florida in final game in tough defensive battle.
What?How do the Gators get in over UGA?Beat em head to head and won the East
Posted on 7/16/18 at 6:19 am to karmew32
Does 2004 USC have Reggie Bush? If we can just say McCoy never gets injured then surely that’s on the table.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 6:31 am to cbree88
You could have seen a similar situation from this year in 2008. Bama was #4 in the BCS rankings.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 7:01 am to TTsTowel
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USC very well might have won, but the 2004 Auburn squad was light years better than the 2003 squad
2004 USC was significantly better than 2003 USC, too.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 7:03 am to RLDSC FAN
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2008 is the one that bothers me the most. That might have been Petes most talented team, but the offense laid an egg that night in Corvallis.
Carroll laid multiple eggs in Corvallis. I'm not sure what it was about that place but those USC teams never played well there.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 7:08 am to pvilleguru
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You could have seen a similar situation from this year in 2008. Bama was #4 in the BCS rankings.
I don’t think they would have gotten in over 1-loss USC, Florida, Oklahoma, or Texas, but you never know with the stupid playoff committee.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 7:09 am to RD Dawg
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What?How do the Gators get in over UGA?Beat em head to head and won the East
Did you see who we played in the National Championship this year?
Posted on 7/16/18 at 9:35 am to Dawgsontop34
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Did you see who we played in the National Championship this year?
Weak,weak argument.Had AU beaten
EITHER Clemson or LSU they go and they also got blown out in the SECCG...not even close.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 9:50 am to karmew32
Georgia not in the final four in 2007 or 2005? 
Also Georgia probably beats Ohio State in 2002
Also Georgia probably beats Ohio State in 2002
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:17 am to Bench McElroy
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Do you want me to be totally honest? With a playoff system in place, I believe USC would have won four titles in five years (2002, 2003, 2004 and 2006
A healthy Miami is the only team in America that would have had a chance to beat UGA in a bowl game after the 2002 season.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:36 am to Bench McElroy
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Do you want me to be totally honest? With a playoff system in place, I believe USC would have won four titles in five years (2002, 2003, 2004 and 2006) and people would be having Jordan-Lebron, Ronaldo-Messi debate conversations about Carroll vs. Saban today.
The thing about those Carroll teams from 2002 to 2008 was that they were so, so, so good in big games. After 2002, I am struggling to think of a high profile game they lost with the obvious exception of the Texas game. They would just demoralize you and dance on your grave if it was a big game, a bowl, etc. Those nasty little Thursday night games in Corvallis, a Saturday afternoon in Berkeley or Pasadena, or that crazy game they lost at home to a terrible Stanford team; I think they might've lost to a top 10 Oregon in Eugene one year during that stretch, but that and UT are about it when it came to big games that they lost.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:41 am to cbree88
McCoy was a pussy and wanted to protect his draft stock. Florida’s defense would’ve taken him out of the game too.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:56 am to AbuTheMonkey
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I think they might've lost to a top 10 Oregon in Eugene one year during that stretch, but that and UT are about it when it came to big games that they lost.
aside from the texas game, you are correct, they lost on the road in 07 to a top 10 Oregon team that was favored against the trojans. Booty was out with an injury.
from 03-08, really the only year where they weren't right there for a national title was 07, so that Oregon loss is mostly forgotten. Everyone remembers those 2 oregon state losses because they were so odd, especially the loss in 08, which robbed everyone of an epic matchup against Florida.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:17 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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.and people were saying USC might be the best team in the country despite their two-losses.
I’m sorry but who was saying that at the time? This is 100% 20/20 hindsight. Miami was on a 34 game winning streak, they were the defending NC, they were a 2 TD favorite in the BCS CG. Also this was only Carroll’s 2nd year, he was not considered a great hire by any means with a 33-31 NFL resume. So no, no one was saying in Dec 2002 that USC might be the best team, it was all about the U.
Now LATER, when we saw the dynasty PC built we recognized it started in 2002 it was a team with not just Palmer but Polamalu whobwas tearing in up in the NFL and it became fashionable to say USC might have been the best team, but that is also because Miami lost. But if McGahee doesn’t get hurt I think Miami would have beaten tOSU and we wouldn’t even discuss USC being better.
Also people discount tOSU because their squeaked out sone games with an ugly offense (That Offense is porn to Les Miles) but that team was also loaded. Look at how many NFL players they had.
Also do not think the “eyeball” test that’s applied to Bama with Saban or tOSU with Meyer having multiple titles and multiple top ranked recruiting classes would apply to PC in his 2nd year. 2008 no question but not 2002.
Please note I mean no disrespect to PC or USC. That 2002 team was great and had toughest schedule I’ve ever seen, their 4 OOC games were Auburn, Colorado, KState and Notre Dame
but with 2 loses I don’t think they get in This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 11:22 am
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:28 am to H-Town Tiger
i agree with all of the above.
in retrospect, it's easy to say that '02 USC with PC, Palmer and Polamalu could have emerged victorious in a 4 team playoff.
However, at the time, they may not have gotten in, and their true coming out party as a dominant force wasnt until the second half of the Orange Bowl against Iowa.
eta- hindsight tells us a potential bowl matchup between a PC/norm chow led USC team and a miami squad led by Larry Coker could have very easily turned out favorably for USC, despite Miami's talent advantage.
in retrospect, it's easy to say that '02 USC with PC, Palmer and Polamalu could have emerged victorious in a 4 team playoff.
However, at the time, they may not have gotten in, and their true coming out party as a dominant force wasnt until the second half of the Orange Bowl against Iowa.
eta- hindsight tells us a potential bowl matchup between a PC/norm chow led USC team and a miami squad led by Larry Coker could have very easily turned out favorably for USC, despite Miami's talent advantage.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 11:30 am
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:58 am to 632627
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eta- hindsight tells us a potential bowl matchup between a PC/norm chow led USC team and a miami squad led by Larry Coker could have very easily turned out favorably for USC, despite Miami's talent advantage.
Ah maybe but in fairness to Coker, his downfall was he wasn’t able to maintain the program. They were beating good team. Again I think people discount 2002 tOSU because of their Milesian offense but they were stacked and did need overtime and a PI calll (yes it was the right call
) to win. Miami was very flat to start that game, but looked like they were starting to roll when McGhee had that gruesome injury. Imo if that doesn’t happen Miami wins by a TDPosted on 7/16/18 at 1:31 pm to WG_Dawg
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healthy Miami is the only team in America that would have had a chance to beat UGA in a bowl game after the 2002 season.
USC, Miami, Oklahoma, and maybe even 11-2 Texas were all better than UGA that year.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:34 pm to cbree88
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USC, Miami, Oklahoma, and maybe even Texas were all better than UGA that year.
In 2002? You're off your rocker.
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