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re: Retroactively predict the CFB playoff participants each year since 2000 and the results
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:03 am to Dupont3
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:03 am to Dupont3
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LSU still wins it in 2007. They got healthy over the break and went on to drum OSU. Without injuries LSU probably goes undefeated.
Yep, LSU and SC were very similar that year. Both had loaded rosters but suffered a ton of injuries mid season. They were easily the best teams, IMO. That's the one year we all wanted to see an SC v LSU showdown. Instead we played Illinois
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:10 am to H-Town Tiger
I was making a joke that you obviously didn’t ge
Got it but it was an idiotic way to make your point
How in the Hell do you know?
Not even close to the same scenario as UGA.Not only did
PSU get killed by Michigan they also lost to an average
Pitt squad...funny how you left that off
To compare the 2 loss PSU in '16 to the 2 loss UGA in '12 is disingenuous at best.
Not "real world" and a complete stretch on your part.
Got it but it was an idiotic way to make your point
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If Auburn has beat LSU or Clemson but still lost to UGA in the SECCG, Auburn would have been out
How in the Hell do you know?
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The point is a team with fewer losses, that PSU beat head to head made the playoffs over them
Not even close to the same scenario as UGA.Not only did
PSU get killed by Michigan they also lost to an average
Pitt squad...funny how you left that off
To compare the 2 loss PSU in '16 to the 2 loss UGA in '12 is disingenuous at best.
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It’s a real world example where the committee chose a team with fewer losses over a qualified team they lost to.
Not "real world" and a complete stretch on your part.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:05 am to cbree88
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in 2011 when Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State, one of the Oklahoma State women’s athletic teams died in a plane crash not long before that game. This might have been on those football players’ minds and negatively impacted their performance that night.
This is bullshite and you know it.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:48 pm to RD Dawg
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If Auburn has beat LSU or Clemson but still lost to UGA in the SECCG, Auburn would have been out How in the Hell do you know?
Because they would have had 2 losses and lost the CCG. Technically I don’t “know” we can’t “know” but there are no examples of P5 teams with more loses getting into the playoffs over P5 teams with fewer losses in the limited sample size we have. I see no reason what so ever to think the playoffs last year would have been different if Auburn had finished 11-2 losing to UGA in the SECCG than it was with them going 10-3.
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Not even close to the same scenario as UGA.Not only did PSU get killed by Michigan they also lost to an average Pitt squad...funny how you left that off To compare the 2 loss PSU in '16 to the 2 loss UGA in '12 is disingenuous at best.
You’re right it’s not the same scenario because unlike 2012 UGA 2016 Penn St WON their conference title game. Penn St has a much better case to have been in the 2016 playoffs than 2012 UGA would have
Their loss to Michigan is on par with 12 UGA loss to USCe. The Pitt loss really isn’t relevant to this discussion I wasn’t forgetting it any more than I didn’t mention they won their conference and had more top 10 wins 2 than 2012 UGA 1. Those trump an week 2, 3 point loss to a so so team that also beat the eventual National Champions.
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Not "real world" and a complete stretch on your part.
How is not real world?
In 2016 the playoff committee DID IN FACT pick Ohio St for the play. They did that DESPITE THE FACT that Ohio State lost to 11-2 Penn St. To further the comparison the thing that got tOSU in was their schedule, notably their 3 top 10 wins. 2012 Florida also has 3 top 10 wins (using final BCS standings) and 4 top 12 with FSU. You are trying to make everything literal but you are too blinded by Red and Black glasses to be objective. The situations are not exact. No 2 season will be the same but there are obvious similarities to compare 12 UF-UGA and 16 tOSU-PSU whether you admit it or not and sorry to but all a available evidence should lead any rational objective observer to realize in 2012 Florida would have had a better chance at a 4 team playoff than UGA.
ETA looking at Florida’s schedule and 4 top 12 wins I’m thinking they actually may have made it over Oregon or KSU. There is no way 2 loss UGA gets in, sorry
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:49 pm to 632627
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Probably 04. That’s the year they sleepwalked through a bunch of games with lessor opponents.
But did they play The Citadel and Louisiana-Monroe and Louisiana Tech?
Auburn beat Va-Tech by 3 points that year. USC beat them by 11 points that year.
When you don't play each other, all you have is common opponents and schedules.
Of Auburn's 11 regular-season games in 2004, seven were at home. The Tigers' three non-conference games were against Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech and I-AA Citadel—all at home.
Compare that with USC (at Virginia Tech and BYU, home to Colorado State and Notre Dame).
Auburn only has its scheduling to blame.
It's easy to see that both the voters and computers punished Auburn for its soft schedule.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:49 pm to 632627
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Probably 04. That’s the year they sleepwalked through a bunch of games with lessor opponents.
But did they play The Citadel and Louisiana-Monroe and Louisiana Tech?
Auburn beat Va-Tech by 3 points that year. USC beat them by 11 points that year.
When you don't play each other, all you have is common opponents and schedules.
Of Auburn's 11 regular-season games in 2004, seven were at home. The Tigers' three non-conference games were against Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech and I-AA Citadel—all at home.
Compare that with USC (at Virginia Tech and BYU, home to Colorado State and Notre Dame).
Auburn only has its scheduling to blame.
It's easy to see that both the voters and computers punished Auburn for its soft schedule.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:23 pm to cbree88
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Texas defeats Alabama in final game narrowly because the Colt McCoy injury never happens
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:45 pm to H-Town Tiger
Ohio State was deserving in 2016. Alabama wasn’t deserving in 2017. That is the objective truth, end of story.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:04 pm to Korin
2002 Iowa would have been in the playoff.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:06 pm to karmew32
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Ohio State was deserving in 2016. Alabama wasn’t deserving in 2017. That is the objective truth, end of story.
I wouldn’t go quite that far but tOSU had a stronger resume with 3 top 8 wins, Bama didn’t really have a statement win. Interesting though how they fared in the playoff.
Personally I would only go with conference winners.
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