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Resting and getting healthy for playoffs is slowly killing regular season sports
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:25 pm
I don’t know what the answer is because if you’re a top team there’s really no incentive to over play stars who are banged up or worn out once you know you’re making the playoffs.
It’s happening in all major sports now and it absolutely kills fan motivation for mid-late regular season games. The cats out of the bag, these guys aren’t even hiding it anymore. The regular season for the most part is irrelevant to the top teams, how do leagues fix this?
It’s happening in all major sports now and it absolutely kills fan motivation for mid-late regular season games. The cats out of the bag, these guys aren’t even hiding it anymore. The regular season for the most part is irrelevant to the top teams, how do leagues fix this?
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:26 pm to Tiger1242
The answer is making the regular season shorter. It’s going the opposite direction
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:28 pm to Tiger1242
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I don’t know what the answer is because if you’re a top team there’s really no incentive to over play stars who are banged up or worn out once you know you’re making the playoffs.
It’s happening in all major sports now and it absolutely kills fan motivation for mid-late regular season games. The cats out of the bag, these guys aren’t even hiding it anymore. The regular season for the most part is irrelevant to the top teams, how do leagues fix this?
THIS is why expanding the college football playoffs is a bad idea.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:28 pm to OceanMan
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The answer is making the regular season shorter. It’s going the opposite direction
Or for sports where it's a series, the higher seeds start with a 1 game to 0 advantage. Wouldn't help in all cases but it creates a larger number of games where you have an incentive to win.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:29 pm to OceanMan
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The answer is making the regular season shorter. It’s going the opposite direction
Or shrink the playoffs to 4 from each conference instead of 8, but that will never happen either.
I bet if only the top 4 made it in the West, LeBitch might have gotten his sorry arse back from injury a little sooner.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:33 pm to LSUGrad9295
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bet if only the top 4 made it in the West, LeBitch might have gotten his sorry arse back from injury a little sooner
Bron lives rent free in the heads of so many of you
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:33 pm to Tiger1242
Makes me wish they transferred some sports to the European Football table model.
NBA League Title & NBA Cup Tournament
NBA League Title & NBA Cup Tournament
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:36 pm to Tiger1242
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I don’t know what the answer is because if you’re a top team there’s really no incentive to over play stars who are banged up or worn out once you know you’re making the playoffs.
Shorter regular seasons, but this will never happen.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:36 pm to Tiger1242
I think it also brings up the "rust vs. rest" debate...
If these guys start sitting 20-30 games a season and forget how to compete come playoff time and get waxed in the 1st round a few years in a row, they might start playing a little more
Then again...probably not
If these guys start sitting 20-30 games a season and forget how to compete come playoff time and get waxed in the 1st round a few years in a row, they might start playing a little more
Then again...probably not
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:37 pm to EuphoricSSP
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Makes me wish they transferred some sports to the European Football table model.
That is unquestionably the best way to determine a champion, but sports fans in this country would hate it because there are no playoffs.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:38 pm to OceanMan
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The answer is making the regular season shorter. It’s going the opposite direction
...or shrinking the playoff fields. When half the teams (or more) in some leagues make the playoffs, it makes it pretty easy lay back and coast through the regular season without fear doing that will derail your postseason hopes. With this new NBA format, 20 teams out of 30 are in the postseason. That's just stupid.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:44 pm to Leonard
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If these guys start sitting 20-30 games a season and forget how to compete come playoff time and get waxed in the 1st round a few years in a row, they might start playing a little more
Maybe, but the Raptors proved a few years ago it works. Kawhi barely played in the regular season and it was obvious in the playoffs that he was just way fresher than everyone else and was unstoppable.
You’re seeing the same stuff in baseball especially with pitchers, why ever let your studs throw more than 4-5 innings? Then in the playoffs they can dominate, half the skill of pitching used to be the ability to do it well for 7-8 innings over a whole season, that’s gone.
Older guys want to bring up all the guys who used to play hurt and how great they were. While I agree it was cool it’s basically science now that it was a bad idea season long. How many teams cost themselves championships back in the day playing their stars in meaningless games?
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:49 pm to VADawg
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That is unquestionably the best way to determine a champion, but sports fans in this country would hate it because there are no playoffs.
I wouldn't do it for the NFL or MLB but would make the argument for NBA and NHL
NHL would be easier transition with the range of European countries that players come from. NBA as well with the amount of leagues in Europe and the popularity of NBA in China (prior to Darrel Morey
)Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:53 pm to Tiger1242
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Older guys want to bring up all the guys who used to play hurt and how great they were. While I agree it was cool it’s basically science now that it was a bad idea season long. How many teams cost themselves championships back in the day playing their stars in meaningless games?
Definitely fair. I mean at the end of the day...it's just another aspect where analytics have a death grip on sports. Of course it makes sense these guys rest, but damnit we love to see someone grind through shite
Posted on 5/14/21 at 3:00 pm to EuphoricSSP
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NHL would be easier transition
The NHL Has ZERO problem with player effort throughout the season. Those guys play hard for 82 games. They're just different than the other big 3 sports. They take it to an ungodly level for the playoffs too.
Hockey is like baseball in that there are plenty of traditions and unwritten rules. Load management in hockey would not be tolerated by people even on the same team.
Those guys grit out stuff that NBA players would sit multiple games for and are right back out on the ice.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 5/14/21 at 3:11 pm to Tiger1242
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Resting and getting healthy for playoffs is slowly killing regular season sports
I'm 100% sure this will in no way negatively affect college football with the pell-mell rush to make it a carbon copy of NFL football with expanded playoffs.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 3:15 pm to Tiger1242
is it really happening in all major sports?
Baseball- I really haven't seen much of a change. Setting your rotation up for the playoffs is different then getting games off, managers have done that for 60 years.
NFL- I think it is less in the NFL than in the past. NFL made changes, last game of the season is in the division and only one team gets a bye.
NBA- yeah the regular season doesn't matter anymore 2/3s of the league makes post season
NHL- I don't watch enough hockey to make a determination
Baseball- I really haven't seen much of a change. Setting your rotation up for the playoffs is different then getting games off, managers have done that for 60 years.
NFL- I think it is less in the NFL than in the past. NFL made changes, last game of the season is in the division and only one team gets a bye.
NBA- yeah the regular season doesn't matter anymore 2/3s of the league makes post season
NHL- I don't watch enough hockey to make a determination
Posted on 5/14/21 at 3:16 pm to Tiger1242
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I don’t know what the answer is because if you’re a top team there’s really no incentive to over play stars who are banged up or worn out once you know you’re making the playoffs.
Besides seeding no.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 3:17 pm to LSUGrad9295
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Or shrink the playoffs to 4 from each conference instead of 8, but that will never happen either.
Do both.
It's really only a big issue in the NBA. It happens in the NFL, but that's usually only in the final game once a team has clinched its spot and seeding. Same for baseball, but we're talking only a few games at the end of a 162 game season.
In the NBA even before this stupid "play-in" tournament you had over half of the teams making the playoffs Contrast that with the NFL where only 12 of 32 teams made the playoff and those who did weren't simply just the 6 teams in each division with the best records (regardless of division). In MLB only 10 of 30 teams made the playoffs.
In the NBA more teams MAKE the playoffs than miss them. Thus, you get much more leeway in resting players because the odds are better a team makes the playoffs than doesn't.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 3:17 pm to Tiger1242
They do not care
Even if 50 people show up for the 40th home game of the NBA season that is more money than if you did not have a 40th game.
Really the NBA could have a 20 game regular season and be fine with finding the best team.
Actually they could just use the preseason odds and go straight to the playoffs thats how accurate they are.
Or one better they could just play one series between the two highest odds teams from the preseason.
Even if 50 people show up for the 40th home game of the NBA season that is more money than if you did not have a 40th game.
Really the NBA could have a 20 game regular season and be fine with finding the best team.
Actually they could just use the preseason odds and go straight to the playoffs thats how accurate they are.
Or one better they could just play one series between the two highest odds teams from the preseason.
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