re: Quick Recap of LA HS divisional revamp

Maybe it is 50% select schools, but that is completely different than saying private schools. I bet they meant select, which is only showing how pathetic it is by the rest of the schools to push out the good public school teams.

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Maybe it is 50% select schools, but that is completely different than saying private schools. I bet they meant select, which is only showing how pathetic it is by the rest of the schools to push out the good public school teams.

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Wait...what are "select schools?" Good public schools?

This is really confusing.

Thanks. Like I said in the OP, I'm just trying to understand bc it's interesting and I've never seen anything like it.

I don't have any idea how this is going to work long term.

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Maybe it is 50% select schools, but that is completely different than saying private schools. I bet they meant select, which is only showing how pathetic it is by the rest of the schools to push out the good public school teams.

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No. It is 57% for the non-select schools. It is 43% for the select schools. I was using private and public because it's easier for people to understand.

You realize these small sports usually don't have public schools competing right? I guarantee some of these smaller sports are majority private schools. Stupid arguement if you are counting sports like golf and tennis.

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Private schools win about 80% of all state championships when smaller sports are included.

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Rummel won football, Brother Martin wrestling, Jesuit soccer & swimming, Dominican cross-country, Mt. Carmel volleyball. 'Catholic League' is having a year.

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some bad football from probably 3 of the 5 other games. Go back and look at the teams that would have made it to the state title when you take out the select teams.... just bad football.

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yeah when Curtis was in 4A, Evangel in 5A, most of the lower class state champions should have had asterisks by their championships in the record books, since they probably weren't the best 2A or 1A sized school...

Class 4-A this past season

*-denotes select school

State Title

*Karr vs Neville


Semi-Finals

*Holy Cross vs *Karr
McDonough 35 vs Neville

Quarters Finals

*Karr vs *St. Aug
*Holy Cross vs LeGrange


*Teurlings Catholic vs McDonough 35
*Vandebilt Catholic vs Neville



So in the quarterfinals, out of 8 teams in 4A, 5 of them were select schools.....

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while there is a lot of truth to that, you and i both know that there is a whole lot more that goes into it. if it were that easy, everybody would do it. if you take all the students at jcc starting in whatever grades they have and move those students to delcambre. take all the kids in the same grade at delcambre and move them to jcc. coaches, community, support and everything else stays in place. you honestly think the results will be the same once those kids reach high school? you can really insert any public and private school. im just using those as examples.

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I'd like to address this post piece by piece if I may.

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you and i both know that there is a whole lot more that goes into it. if it were that easy, everybody would do it.

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No no there is not....it really is that simple as a concept. However, to actually get people to do it is hard as hell evidently. Notre Dame - Crowley fills their home stands for every single football game. The crowd goes from current players parent all the way to alumni from 50 years ago that didn't even play football, but still support the school. Now take Crowley High.....they play in the same stadium and sometimes struggle to fill up a single section. Do you think they are turning people away from the Crowley High game? Do you think Crowley High isn't asking for the support from the community? Hell no...the community doesn't care and no matter what Crowley High has done over the years they can't change it. Community support is a major league competetive advantage that some schools have and some just don't.

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take all the kids in the same grade at delcambre and move them to jcc. coaches, community, support and everything else stays in place. you honestly think the results will be the same once those kids reach high school?

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To answer your question simply....yes. I truly believe that if you take just the coaches and community support from ND-Crowley to Crowley High that over the last 6-8 years Crowley High would have won at least 2 state title. They definitely would have won one with Devante Bourque with the support and coaching that ND has. I believe it would work out the same with JC and Delcambre. I said this earlier this year if you gave East Feliciana the support and coaching that PBS has then EF may have been able to beat anyone in the state this past year.....public or private.

i dont disagree with anything that you said, however i think you are discounting the ability of the athletes. ive coached at both public and private schools, so i know how it works on both sides. private schools can absolutely pick and choose who they want to come to their school. they select the people that they want, while controlling their numbers at the same time. public schools cant turn anyone down. with that being said, there are plenty of public schools that still go out and try to get good athletes to come to their school. the one thing that we agree on is the most important thing, and thats that the lhsaa is an absolute cluster. i dont really agree with the split in the fashion that it has happened, but something needed to be done. its just sad that the kids are the ones in the middle of everything. i blame 4a and 5a but thats just my opinion. thats a whole other discussion. haha. i just hope everything works out for the best because i think high school athletics are great.