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re: Pro franchises that waste the most talent

Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:58 pm to
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Orlando is another one:

Penny
Shaq
Dwight


Orlando me the NBA finals and the Eastern conference championship with the guys you mentioned. That is hardly squandering talent.

I would say things like the Detroit Lions where you lose all the time with Hall of Fame players
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
9642 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:56 pm to
Saints the last four years because Sean Payton is terrible at game management.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:18 pm to
SuperSonics/Thunder
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

The New Orleans Pelicans/Hornets immediately come to mind.


Oh boy, this bullshite again

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They managed to squander prime CP3


2 seed (almost a 1 seed) with a shite arse owner in George shin that was one game away from a wcf. Spurs got a lot of cheap calls and they were at worst the 3rd best team in the league that year. Then they got dumb by firing Byron Scott, misevaluating Tyson Chandlers foot injury and trading him. Then dwest tore his acl and Chris still took Emeka fricking Okafor to the playoffs and took a couple of games from the lakers.

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Anthony Davis


They didn't squander a goddamn motherfricking thing with AD. They put Eric Gordon, tyreke Evans, Ryan Anderson, and Jrue holiday around him, and EVERY one of those players got significantly hurt while he was there. The fricking sixers lied about Jrues injury and got fined for it.

Then they traded for cousins and started fricking the league up and bam torn Achilles and cousins is never the same. AD then decided to puss out and demanded to go to l.a.

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most likely waste Zion too.


50 fricking games in lol.
Posted by LSU - Mill Valley CA
Mill Valley, California
Member since Jan 2005
120 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:41 pm to
The Chicago Bears of the late sixties must be considered. They had offensive and defensive MVP’s in Gale Sayers and Dick Butkus. Indeed, Butkus and Sayers are arguably the best ever at their positions.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5036 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:48 pm to

Cubs in the 60's. Ernie Banks, Ron Santo, Billy Williams, Fergie Jenkins and a bunch of other great players. Not only did they never make the postseason but they finished near the bottom of the NL most years.

Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28996 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:51 pm to
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The Seattle Mariners had Ken Griffey Jr. for a decade and later had Ichiro Suzuki (also for a decade) yet still managed to never win anything



How can you drop the Mariners and not mention Felix?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 11:52 am to
This doesn't fully qualify but the Packers having Favre and Rodgers for almost 30 years and only winning 2 Super Bowls qualifies for something.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 12:00 pm to
The Colts.

Manning should have gone to more than 2 super bowls.

They literally broke Andrew Luck.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5018 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 12:14 pm to
For the last ten seasons (2011-2020) it's the Steelers, hands down. For about 6-7 years of that stretch (2013-2018), they had the best roster in the NFL by far, including a top 10 defense, a top 5 QB, the best WR in the league, the best RB in the league and a rock-solid offensive line. A down 2019 is excusable because of injuries.

The net result? 3 playoff wins in 10 years. They lost in the first round four times, missed the playoffs four times, lost a divisional round in 2015 and lost the AFC Championship in 2016.

They have easily done less with more than any NFL franchise and probably in all of sports in that stretch.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13675 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 12:32 pm to
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The New Orleans Pelicans/Hornets immediately come to mind. They managed to squander prime CP3, Anthony Davis, and will most likely waste Zion too.


They also traded Baron Davis in his prime for Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis. No draft picks involved, just 2 shitty players
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11616 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 12:54 pm to
All of the Houston teams.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
78952 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 12:55 pm to
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They lost in the first round four times, missed the playoffs four times, lost a divisional round in 2015 and lost the AFC Championship in 2016.



How many times has CFF:LoM killed them with bonehead turnovers? I think he threw two pick sixes against Jacksonville one year.

The Name Redacteds have to be on this list. They kept RG3 on the field with an ACL injury and ruined his career.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44055 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 12:57 pm to
early-mid 2000s San Diego Chargers

QB Drew Brees & Phillip Rivers
RB LaDainian Tomlinson, Michael Turner, Lorenzo Neal; Darren Sproles
WR/TE Keenan McCardell, Vincent Jackson; Antonio Gates
Defense Junior Seau, Shawn Merriman, Jamal Williams; Quentin Jammer
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21781 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 12:57 pm to
Couldn’t beat GOAT
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 2:20 pm to
I searched for Angels and didn't see it.

The correct answer is the LA/Anaheim Angels. Mike Trout has won 2 MVPs and their team finished 4th in the division. They've had one of the highest payrolls in MLB with the best player for the better part of a decade and have 1 post season birth to show for it with 0 post-season wins.

They're wasting statistically one of the best players of all time.

Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
41471 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 2:44 pm to
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The Name Redacteds have to be on this list. They kept RG3 on the field with an ACL injury and ruined his career.




The Skins haven't had any talent to waste And they were a powerhouse in the 80's. Their best teams were the 99 and 00 teams since the last SB. There were a couple decent years with the GOAT Sean Taylor, but aside from that it's been a lot of overpaying for washed up vets or one season wonders. That 00 team had the talent to win the SB but all of that talent didn't come together as advertised and that's what created never ending tailspin that is Dan Snyder.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 2:48 pm
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2984 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 2:46 pm to
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But the St Louis Blues are actually much worse: over the course of the 90s they had:


Growing up in the 90's as a Blues fan was one of the most painful times possible.

And that doesn't even include the early 2000's teams that did the same shite and had Tkachuk, Turgeon, Demitra, Kariya, and more.

All those teams were more talented on paper than the team that won the Cup 2 years ago
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 2:47 pm
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
41471 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 2:47 pm to
Pronger, MacInnis...those Blues teams were incredible in the regular season.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10846 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 3:09 pm to
I was an outfielder in the Angels organization and quit because I knew that they were always going to build their major league roster through free agency.

Go look at their roster in the early 80's

Fred Lynn
Reggie Jackson
Rod Carew
Doug DeCinces
Rick Burleson
Bobby Grich
Bob Boone
Don Baylor
Brian Downing
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