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re: Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe removed from MLB permanently ineligible list; eligible for HOF
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:04 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:04 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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So what's the reasoning here?
It was a “lifetime” ban
But I don’t doubt Trump has some influence here
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:06 pm to volfan30
f all the "about time" bullshite, Pete was his worst enemy.
He was told to stop promoting gambling, chill out, stay away from the shite and he would get in. He gave them the middle finger and was giving MLB picks inside casinos and at the DERBY
They told him again, sop the bullshite, lay low. Nope, he would do signings and sports betting shows right outside cooperstown.
Guy was a degenerate loser, who could of just gone away and been voted in. Instead they waited till he died, to eventually put him in, so he wouldnt embarrass himself and MLB.
He's the drug addict who couldnt stop.
He was told to stop promoting gambling, chill out, stay away from the shite and he would get in. He gave them the middle finger and was giving MLB picks inside casinos and at the DERBY
They told him again, sop the bullshite, lay low. Nope, he would do signings and sports betting shows right outside cooperstown.
Guy was a degenerate loser, who could of just gone away and been voted in. Instead they waited till he died, to eventually put him in, so he wouldnt embarrass himself and MLB.
He's the drug addict who couldnt stop.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:13 pm to stlslick
And i have ALWAYS thought his equipment should be in, with his jersey and his accomplishments. then, when he dies, he goes in.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:22 pm to SingleMalt1973
quote]Guess they just had to wait for Pete to die to keep him from getting the satisfaction. Now of course the Baseball Writers wont admit them anyway, bunch of fricking nerds that couldnt play coach pitch in elementary school.[/quote]
Wasn’t it a lifetime ban? They had to wait until his life ended.
Wasn’t it a lifetime ban? They had to wait until his life ended.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 9:10 pm to InkStainedWretch
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The evidence against Jackson is as strong as that against Cain if not Judas Iscariot. The whole deal is people saying “Poor Joe, he didn’t know what he was doing,” like he was retarded (I’ll use the word) or something.
He was not retarded. He was country smart and again he owned and operated multiple businesses. He just couldn’t read or write, which again was not uncommon for someone born in the bowels of South Carolina in 1887.
Correct, he was not retarded.
And yes, he took money. We can agree on that. However, nobody placed him in any meetings about the fix. Nitpicking his stats and plays from the series don't offer any conclusions. And again, his alleged confession vanished, he didn't get paid until midway through the series, and he testified he didn't even know what was in the envelope when it was handed to him. So we really don't know what he was doing or thinking at the time.
Yet, Landis banned him and rest of the Black Sox before they even went to trial. He also threatened to ban John McGraw for buying a race track. He suspended Babe Ruth for barnstorming in the offseason. He ruled baseball like an overly emotional tyrant, and maybe he had to at the time, but I think it's reasonable to finally reverse his judgment. And NOT because of Asinof.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 9:22 pm to volfan30
This is Trump’s doing, methinks
Posted on 5/13/25 at 10:39 pm to stlslick
"Who cares that I had sex with a 14 year old, it was 50 years ago."
Posted on 5/13/25 at 10:57 pm to nvasil1
Jackson must have been even better than I thought if he could hit .375 while dumping games.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 11:11 pm to FightinTigersDammit
He hit .286 in the games they were trying to lose and .500 in the games they were trying to win. And he got half his hits in the games they were trying to lose in one game, in which his hits were negated when he pulled up and allowed a triple that brought home the winning runs for Cincinnati.
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 5/13/25 at 11:13 pm to InkStainedWretch
Hit .500 while trying to lose. Impressive.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 11:13 pm to nvasil1
We will just have to agree to disagree, Landis was horribly wrong on the color line which has damned him forevermore in history, but I think he gets a bad rap on how he handled the rest of his duties.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 11:16 pm to FightinTigersDammit
No he hit .500 in the games they were trying to win.
Again, the Black Sox were not trying to lose every game, weren’t trying to get swept. They were trying to manipulate the betting line by giving people the idea that they had gotten on track.
Again, the Black Sox were not trying to lose every game, weren’t trying to get swept. They were trying to manipulate the betting line by giving people the idea that they had gotten on track.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 11:19 pm to InkStainedWretch
Well, edit your last post, because it says exactly the opposite.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 11:32 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Oops, sorry have been going since 4:30 a.m. and am running on fumes and brain is not engaged.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:25 am to Indefatigable
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Embarrassing that they waited until these guys were dead.
Clearly we all have a different view of what "lifetime" in "lifetime ban" means. Manfried said that from now on once a person is dead that means they served their lifetime ban and then it will be up to the HOF if they get in or not.
Also lol at all of y'all "It's a shame they waited until Pete died!" when the man literally agreed to a lifetime ban.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:47 am to volfan30
I knew this would happen right after Rose died so he couldn't enjoy his induction while he was still alive.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 2:13 am to MrBiriwa
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Don't know too much about Shoeless Joe but I've always been on board with Pete Rose being indicted.
Hope he gets in and soon
Freudian slip?
Posted on 5/14/25 at 2:15 am to PowerTool
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Freudian slip?
proper grammar?
Posted on 5/14/25 at 4:02 am to volfan30
Probably to set precedent for their boy ohtani
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:53 am to BamaDude06
All Pete had to do was cop to what he did and he'd have gotten a one-year suspension. He'd have been back to manage the Reds in 1990, and I believe they won the World Series that year. But he couldn't do it because he thought like an athlete, that he could play hard and hustle and get out of it. And he was so stupid that he basically agreed to the death penalty as long as he didn't have to admit what he'd done.
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