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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:49 pm to Srbtiger06
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:49 pm to Srbtiger06
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Show me where they're going for the actual guilty parties.
They're going after Penn St athletics because they believe Penn St athletics violated some sort of NCAA Bylaw or Principle. It really isn't that difficult to understand.
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:52 pm to MOT
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They're going after Penn St athletics because they believe Penn St athletics violated some sort of NCAA Bylaw or Principle.
Penn State has since begun to right the ship.
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It really isn't that difficult to understand.
Actually it is. The NCAA is supposedly there for the student-athlete. SA's weren't involved here. Why punish them?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:53 pm to MOT
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They're going after Penn St athletics because they believe Penn St athletics violated some sort of NCAA Bylaw or Principle. It really isn't that difficult to understand.
This. The NCAA is punishing the program. They don't go after the individuals. All of Joe Pa, the AD and the Univ President's actions are "Penn State" actions because they are in positions of high authority. Therefore, the NCAA is involved.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:53 pm to Srbtiger06
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It would make more sense in that case but it would still be a little ridiculous.
A violation is a violation. Are you actually saying it is ridiculous that schools are punished for breaking NCAA rules because it could affect local businesses?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:53 pm to PowerTool
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:54 pm to volfan30
The guilty are being punished? If coaches pay players and get caught they get fired. Should those schools where that happens not get in trouble?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:54 pm to MOT
thread too long,,
whats worse than the death penalty?
I fear the NCAA with secret consent from PennState will hand down a 3-4 year ban from bowl games
10-12 scholies lost and a big fine to be given to Victim Advicocy groups MAYBE no home games for next year,, that would be unprecendented and SEEM like a big deal
theyll act like it s HUGE punishment,
but truth is if ever a athletic program needed to be shut down its PSU football
there needs to be serious time for PSU to pause and reflect and re-set.
whats worse than the death penalty?
I fear the NCAA with secret consent from PennState will hand down a 3-4 year ban from bowl games
10-12 scholies lost and a big fine to be given to Victim Advicocy groups MAYBE no home games for next year,, that would be unprecendented and SEEM like a big deal
theyll act like it s HUGE punishment,
but truth is if ever a athletic program needed to be shut down its PSU football
there needs to be serious time for PSU to pause and reflect and re-set.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:55 pm to tigerpimpbot
I have asked at least 10 times for a name of someone currently within the football program who deserves to be punished and all I've got are crazy leaps of logic, justification for bloodlust, and "Janitor A" and "Janitor B".
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:56 pm to tigerpimpbot
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All of Joe Pa, the AD and the Univ President's actions are "Penn State" actions because they are in positions of high authority. Therefore, the NCAA is involved.
And the guilty will feel none of it.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:57 pm to Gmorgan4982
You're just being a dick. They fricked up. They are gone because they got fired. What you are saying is as long as a school fires staff who break rules they should never be punished.
Coaches can pay players as long as the school fires them before the NCAA gets em. Cool.
Coaches can pay players as long as the school fires them before the NCAA gets em. Cool.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:57 pm to Srbtiger06
quote:Yep. If these people want more blood, could they at least rant about how Sandusky and others deserve harsher punishments? That way, their arguments may make some semblance of sense.
And the guilty will feel none of it.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:57 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Who is "they"? Give me a name.
They fricked up. They are gone because they got fired.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:58 pm to MOT
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A violation is a violation. Are you actually saying it is ridiculous that schools are punished for breaking NCAA rules because it could affect local businesses?
No I'm saying an actual student-athlete scandal would make more sense. SMU paid players. That made sense because they essentially 'bought players'. SA involvement at least lends credibility since they committed said violations. The NCAA promotes CONSTANTLY how it "looks out for the student-athlete" all the time. In this instance no SA was involved but many will be hurt by sanctions. Doesn't really add up.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:58 pm to ReauxlTide222
My stance is and always has been that the NCAA punishes people who were not responsible. That is their major flaw. Citing other cases as evidence means absolutely nothing to me.
The responsible parties should be dealt by the NCAA in those instances, not the university or athletic department as a whole.
The responsible parties should be dealt by the NCAA in those instances, not the university or athletic department as a whole.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:59 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Yep. If these people want more blood, could they at least rant about how Sandusky and others deserve harsher punishments? That way, their arguments may make some semblance of sense.
That statue wasn't going to remove itself man.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:59 pm to Srbtiger06
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I read several articles saying exactly what you said. Try to keep up.
Then why did you act like it was my idea?
I don't believe you've read anything, your just trying to be a message board hero.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:01 pm to Gmorgan4982
Holy shite the guilty people are gone. They are gone from every school they frick up at. You're bring so obtuse. Name a school that has coaches screw up that bad and keeps them. The coaches aren't there now but that doesn't offset the 20 years that they were there with a known child rapist running around.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:01 pm to volfan30
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My stance is and always has been that the NCAA punishes people who were not responsible. That is their major flaw. Citing other cases as evidence means absolutely nothing to me.
I agree 110%. None of the coaches found guilty of involvement should be allowed to coach at an NCAA institution again. I'm sure accrediting institutions would follow similar steps with the administration involved. Granted, the involvement of PSU coaches wouldn't matter much here since Sandusky is in the pen and Paterno is dead but the principle remains.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:02 pm to volfan30
quote:Then universities and athletic departments will just hire cheating coaches, let them cheat all they want and don't ask questions. The worse thing that happens is the coach gets punished. The university can just move on and hire their next cheating coach.
The responsible parties should be dealt by the NCAA in those instances, not the university or athletic department as a whole.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 2:02 pm to Srbtiger06
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Penn State has since begun to right the ship.
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