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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST

Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:43 pm to
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Did you not say they are in danger of losing accreditation?


Why take my word for it? Do some research before you post. You're arguing pretty passionately for a guy who obviously isn't interested enough to do a little reading.
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29328 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:44 pm to
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Why take my word for it? Do some research before you post.


I read several articles saying exactly what you said. Try to keep up.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:44 pm to
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Again, the NCAA isn't going after the businesses.


But they essentially are. A lot of people are about to lose their jobs over this decision if you believe the rumor on the severity of the penalties. And the reasoning behind these penalties is simply stupid. People want blood and a lynch mob is demanding that the NCAA crucify Penn State, despite the fact that proper punishment is already being levied out by the justice system to those who were responsible for this atrocity. You all want blood and you're willing to hurt the lives of tens of thousands of people to get it. But you're able to look at yourself in the mirror and blame it all on Penn State. That guy committed suicide because he lost his business? It's not the NCAA's fault...it's Penn State's fault. Good luck telling yourself that.

Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56812 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:45 pm to
SElf imposed death penalty was the thing to do and the powers at Penn State were too chicken shite to do it. Seems they just can't do the right thing at Penn State when left with the decision on their own.

I think their football program will be halted in this process.

Question is, how long will it take Penn State to come back from this punishment or will they come back at all. Maybe they need to do away with football all together at Penn State.

What if they have to change thier name to the fudge packers, that would suck.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:45 pm to
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Is Penn State a person? I could have sworn it was a university made up of land and buildings.


It's an entity.

Like I said, just kick them out of the NCAA. They can do anything they want after that, just not with other University's in the NCAA.

I can't believe how many think that Penn State's atrocities aren't to blame for possible economic problems and jobs. They're the ones that have caused all of this. Not the NCAA. If anyone want's to be mad or pissed or wants to sue, do it to the University and people responsible. The NCAA isn't the bad guy in this situation.
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:45 pm to
I'm not sifting through 29 pages of material, but has it been mentioned that a possible TV ban will be implemented?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
60258 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:45 pm to
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One source told Yahoo! Sports Emmert’s sanctions will include a “multiple-year” bowl ban and “crippling” scholarship losses.



damn. PSU might get nuked for the next decade
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:46 pm to
First of all the football program is not going away. They will only receive severe punishment that will ultimately set them back to the 1950's.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29328 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:46 pm to
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I can't believe how many think that Penn State's atrocities aren't to blame for possible economic problems and jobs. They're the ones that have caused all of this. Not the NCAA. If anyone want's to be mad or pissed or wants to sue, do it to the University and people responsible. The NCAA isn't the bad guy in this situation.



Again, it wasn't the whole damn school. It wasn't even the whole AD.

Show me where they're going for the actual guilty parties.
Posted by Tolbert1906
Member since Aug 2009
2340 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:46 pm to
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Source?
family friend, works at NCAA office in Indiana. not a higher-up, but is privy to some information.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:46 pm to
Then explain why Penn States football program shouldn't be punished.

The fact that what they did was so bad the police had to get involved is a bullshite excuse as to why the NCAA shouldn't.

Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60258 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:46 pm to
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I'm not sifting through 29 pages of material, but has it been mentioned that a possible TV ban will be implemented?



no mention of that and I doubt we ever see this type of punishment again. way too much TV money involved nowadays
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31144 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:46 pm to
Would this stupid argument about the businesses be the same if the serious punishment was the result of "normal" violations...like using ineligible players, recruiting violations, etc?
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:47 pm to
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Then explain why Penn States football program shouldn't be punished.



The guilty are being punished already.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:47 pm to
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I can't believe how many think that Penn State's atrocities aren't to blame for possible economic problems and jobs.
Penn State is not a person. The people who committed the crime have been or are in the process of being punished or they are dead. Why do you want to punish other people? I think it is to satisfy some bloodlust you have.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:47 pm to
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But they essentially are.


No. They aren't. Any fall out is the fault of Penn State.

Using that logic, then you should blame the State or Fed government for a child being on welfare when they convict and punish a father for a crime and the mother for covering it up.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29328 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:47 pm to
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Would this stupid argument about the businesses be the same if the serious punishment was the result of "normal" violations...like using ineligible players, recruiting violations, etc?


It would make more sense in that case but it would still be a little ridiculous.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:48 pm to
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The fact that what they did was so bad the police had to get involved is a bullshite excuse as to why the NCAA shouldn't.



It is a criminal matter, not an NCAA matter.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:48 pm to
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Then explain why Penn States football program shouldn't be punished.
Who currently within the football program deserves to be punished for this crime? Give me some names.
Posted by TemplarTheSaint
The Vatican
Member since Oct 2011
704 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 1:48 pm to
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Why would it be losing accreditation?


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Google "penn state" + "Clery Act." Serious stuff that came to light as a result of the scandal.


Also Google Auburn University and SACS 2004 and you will see why decentralization of authority is so key -
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