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re: Oregon State fires HC Trent Bray after a season and a half
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:31 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:31 pm to lsufball19
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Coach O would be a disaster. That can't be serious
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:31 pm to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:32 pm to The Pirate King
Coach O gonna rip his shirt off and wrestle a sheep in Corvallis
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:33 pm to LSUintheNW
quote:I don’t disagree with you. But that’s not the reality. If they lose to Indiana and Michigan (which they almost certainly will) he is going to be fired, that’s what their beat writers are saying.
No he isn’t, he has proven he can build up a program. He’ll get time to do that.
Their big donors have turned on him. Their top high school recruits have decommited. Former players are telling their current best players to transfer and there are also rumors that Smith and his family are not happy being there.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:33 pm to The Pirate King
Of course he's interested. His money is all gone.
Still would be a disaster, especially in the NIL era. You need coaches who can actually coach and strategize these days, things Orgeron always failed at.
That's why he never was a coordinator.
The recruiter-CEO archetype is dying with NIL.
Still would be a disaster, especially in the NIL era. You need coaches who can actually coach and strategize these days, things Orgeron always failed at.
That's why he never was a coordinator.
The recruiter-CEO archetype is dying with NIL.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:36 pm to Kenny Wu
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Their big donors have turned on him. Their top high school recruits have decommited. Former players are telling their current best players to transfer and there are also rumors that Smith and his family are not happy being there.
Interesting. Thank you for the info.
Let’s say they fire him. Who could they get this cycle considering the jobs that will be open?
This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:37 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:38 pm to LSUintheNW
Smith burned all good will and bridges he had in Corvallis to ground on the way out.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:42 pm to LSUintheNW
quote:no idea! The fan base seems to want James Franklin but I don’t think that is realistic given all the better options he will have. They need a young upcoming coach that isn’t well known yet that can recruit and turn it around. Those don’t grow on trees though.
Let’s say they fire him. Who could they get this cycle considering the jobs that will be open?
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:51 pm to Kenny Wu
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They need a young upcoming coach that isn’t well known yet that can recruit and turn it around.
Giving a guy that fit that description two offseasons ago 18-20 games might hurt that search.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 3:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ehhh you still need to have a personality that players want to be around. Either a motivator or a player’s coach. Ideally you’d want both. Your coordinators can do the scheming and playcalling. Most of the positional coaching is done by the position coaches anyways with the HC having his own specialty. Believe Orgeron’s specialty was DL anyways.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 3:13 pm to TheePalmetto
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Your coordinators can do the scheming and playcalling.
Then they leave for the Panthers and Baylor and the house of cards collapses. He also won't be able to hire that caliber of coach at Oregon State so you'd have to trust his eye for more under the radar candidates.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 3:14 pm to JimTiger72
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Corvallis is a long way from Destin
And a horrible job in general right now.
Bad recruiting, no NIL, bad TV deal and a fledgling conference situation.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 4:55 pm to tide06
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Bad recruiting, no NIL, bad TV deal and a fledgling conference situation.
I think it's a pretty good situation for him personally.
- Extremely low expectations. Their fans would be very happy with a .500 or better record and a few upsets a year. Just O being mentioned has their fans excited.
- Easy conference, expanding to 6 teams next year with most difficult team being Boise State.
- Oregon is a beautiful state.
- He has recruiting ties and cache on the west coast and in the south. Could pick off some overlooked 2* and 3* Louisiana kids.
Will he ever win a championship there? No. Could he bring them some relevance and knock off some higher ranked teams? Absolutely.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 5:03 pm to The Pirate King
Ed O isn’t a do more with less guy.
He’s a top 5 DL coach if not better.
He’s a motivator.
He’s not a scheme guy.
He’s not a talent ID and development guy.
At his best he’s what he was at LSU circa 2019: a CEO with experienced hands on coordinators to run those units and a talent pipeline to leverage.
I see him doing well somewhere in the Sun Belt, I just don’t see the fit in Corvallis.
He’s a top 5 DL coach if not better.
He’s a motivator.
He’s not a scheme guy.
He’s not a talent ID and development guy.
At his best he’s what he was at LSU circa 2019: a CEO with experienced hands on coordinators to run those units and a talent pipeline to leverage.
I see him doing well somewhere in the Sun Belt, I just don’t see the fit in Corvallis.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 5:08 pm to tide06
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He’s not a talent ID
He definitely used to be in the Ole Miss days. Now he's just trying to get a check.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 5:21 pm to Mo Jeaux
O would be a perfect fit at ULL
Posted on 10/16/25 at 6:46 pm to tide06
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a CEO
He’s not a CEO. This is one of the worst talking points about him, and it comes from people who have no idea what a CEO does. A CEO does not just sit back smoking a cigar and let his underlings do things, and then occasionally give a motivational speech. Posted on 10/16/25 at 6:49 pm to Mo Jeaux
It’s the gentlest way I could put the fact that he isn’t and will never be a hands on detail oriented coach.
Call it a cheerleader if you want, it amounts to the same thing and it’s why I don’t think he can win without other factors working to his benefit.
Call it a cheerleader if you want, it amounts to the same thing and it’s why I don’t think he can win without other factors working to his benefit.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 7:35 pm to The Pirate King
I admit I don't know much about the program currently but can't imagine that the conference fiasco is helping. If they can pull someone like Harsin they should jump at it.
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