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re: Once Again these "committees" screw things up..

Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by the crue
Chackbay-Thibodaux
Member since May 2008
3972 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:16 pm to
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You are making it a personal issue. The fact is that conference titles and division titles should be respected by the committee. Otherwise, there is no reason to have a conference or a conference championship, or a conference championship game. They become meaningless
ohio st has 2 losses, if they just had beat iowa, they would be in period. but they had 2 loses. ohio st with 1 loss this year is definitely in over alabama. same thing with usc, they had 2 loses
Posted by SwampManiac
Quito, Ecuador
Member since Jul 2013
1758 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:19 pm to
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LSU fans would be changing their narrative if they were in Bama shoes


LSU fans will if they have a chance b/c now the committee has let in a non-conference champion 2 years in a row. And I guarantee that if LSU loses one game next year and it's to Bama and Bama goes the SECCG and loses - Bama will go to the CFB Playoffs, not LSU.
Posted by TigerEast
Alabama
Member since Dec 2003
1451 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:19 pm to
This is the second time in seven years Alabama has been selected to play for the championship without winning a conference championship. Remember 2011 when LSU had to replay Bama after winning against Bama at Bama.
Posted by bayouman
Uptown NOLA
Member since Apr 2012
1561 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:19 pm to
Every team does play every other team in most conferences. that alone gives them some leeway.
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:20 pm to
Alabama only lost 1 game on the road. The game was close.

Ohio State lost two games: one by 31 points. and quite honestly should have lost to Penn State at home.

Alabama is better for ratings against Clemson than Ohio state.

Alabama is playoff experienced.
No one wants to see Clemson blow out ohio state.

Alabama would be favored over Ohio state on a neutral site.

Alabama was ranked fifth last week. Ohio state was eighth.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39986 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:20 pm to
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Remember 2011 when LSU had to replay Bama after winning against Bama at Bama.




No, no one remembers that
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73112 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:22 pm to
Copied my friends break down for you.
-Word of the day is DESERVE.
-I'm not bitter(like I said yesterday that some didn't read well) or salty or butt hurt.
-My two cents that I'm entitled to. I DESERVE it.
-Auburn got whipped yesterday plain and simple. No excuses. UGA DESERVED to win that game because they played better and wanted it more and their coaching staff was better prepared.
-Auburn DESERVED to beat two #1 teams in three weeks because they played out of their minds and hit a hot streak that unfortunately ended yesterday.
-If a tournament is to be held to determine an overall national champion shouldn't it's participants be some form of sub champion?
-Here is a list of the teams that DESERVE to be the top 4
1)Clemson
2)UGA
3)Oklahoma
4)Ohio State
-Here is a list of teams that DESERVE to be in the top 4 consideration also because why? They are said sub champions
1)USC
2)UCF(undefeated btw)
3)Boise State
-Here is a list of one loss teams that DESERVE to be considered for the top 4 because at least they played for their said sub championship
1)Wisconsin
-Where is BAMA? Oh yeah? They don't DESERVE to be in the top 4! They lost to the best team they played all year. They didn't even play in the SEC title game. HELL!! They aren't even champions of their own state for the next year.
-Is BAMA good enough for top 4 consideration? Absolutely. Do they DESERVE it? ABSOLUTELY NOT!
-But good ole deep throater of the media Dick Satan sure did change his tune about a non conference champion DESERVING a playoff spot from a year ago.
-Does the football playoff look like the BCS disguised just with more teams and controversy or is it me?
-I've said from day one and until I am blue in the face that it would take BAMA 2 loses to never get in the playoffs. Every year it will always be BAMA and the "other 3".
-6 team playoff. Plain and simple. Champion of the 5 Power Conferences(regardless of record) and a wild card with two first round byes.
-I can't wait to see who gets screwed. My money is on OSU even though they DESERVE to be in it and BAMA doesn't.
-Good enough vs. DESERVE.
Posted by Tigerdad2001
Watson
Member since Sep 2013
922 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:25 pm to
Pen state says frick you!
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:26 pm to
It’s who you beat AND who you lose to. It was that way in 2011 and is that way this year.

The ESPN guys had no problem with OSU being knocked out of the title hame in 2011 cause they had a bad loss, but it’s a different story with them when Ohio St gets knocked out cause of a bad loss.

Go figure
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13614 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:29 pm to
Are you trying to say that Bana wasnt one of the top 2 teams in the nation in 2011 because its pretty fricking obvious that they were huh? Im so tired of our pussy fan base saying this
Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:32 pm to
Four 1 loss teams, OK. Two from the SEC in a down year is ridiculous. But the fact that they do not have to play each other in the first round leaves open the possibility of an all SEC NC and that sucks as badly as 2011.



Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1416 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:32 pm to
?? your melt is showing. Perhaps the flaw is with the SEC set-up, and not the committee.

Maybe the East-West set up should be for regular season scheduling only and the SECCG be for the teams with the best records in the conference. Ideally, it would be an East-West matchup.

Not a BAMA fan, but let’s not pretend that they are not worthy of a top 4 spot. I don’t think a 2 loss TOS that beat an undefeated—yet really untested—Wisconsin team deserves to be there before a 1-loss BAMA team that lost to a highly ranked AU.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10214 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:34 pm to
Exactly. A post I made earlier saying there are about 6 teams, when in their prime, can do what bama did.

Funny thing is it was 2 of those 6 teams I mentioned that we’re goong head to head. The difference today, BAMA’s current run and the weight that carries with Saban.

LSU isn’t getting in if I’m bama’s shoes.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12418 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:36 pm to
I don't see it that way at all. This is a playoff where the 4 best teams, according to the committee, are chosen. There's no rule that you have to win the conference to be selected and OSU proved that last year. Its all based on somewhat educated opinions. The committee had their opinion and we have ours.
IMO Bama was more deserving thb OSU. Bama lost to a top 5 school, OSU to a top 5 school and Iowa. One thing sticks out, Iowa. Also in what world of standings does a 2 loss team beat a 1 loss team when conference doesn't matter and the overall resumes are basically a wash? Both sides can be argued but I think they got it right
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124188 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:39 pm to
Bama getting yet another mulligan pisses me off. But OSU got their's last year. They went in front of their own conference champion. Then they got blown out in the semi's. Based on that there is no way OSU with two blowout losses deserved to be in.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:43 pm to
We were dealt a bad hand in 2011. shite like that happens sometimes.We had to beat Bama twice and they had to beat us but once. I don’t know if there was a college program in the country that year who could’ve beat Bama twice in the same year. Hell, we were the only team who could beat them even once.

Not being happy with the fact we had to play one of the finest college football teams I’ve seen in the past 20 years twice in the same season, doesn’t make us pussies.
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Are you trying to say that Bana wasnt one of the top 2 teams in the nation in 2011 because its pretty fricking obvious that they were huh? Im so tired of our pussy fan base saying this




All you figs defending Bama are wrong. The argument should have nothing to do with whether or not they are good enough to be in the final four...

The true argument is that BAMA's political connections and money become more important than the entire regular season, and the conference championship.

The fact that they are in this year completely sullies and nullifies the regular season and the Conference championship. It is meaningless and nullified.

Why watch the game of the century in 2011, if the loser gets a rematch??? What was the point???

If Bama deserves it, then it should have won it's only tough matchup in the regular season versus Auburn.

So Auburn wins, after whipped Georgia, Georgia gets a mulligan, and then Bama benefits.

Plain and simple, this is bad for the conference championship and for the regular season. It makes it less exciting, and there is no penalty for losing.

Screw Ohio State, but I could argue UCF should be in it or even USC before Bama.

to all you Saban arse suckers, you are pathetic, and cucks like you are why political bastards like Saban rule supreme.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13005 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:57 pm to
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ok so if LSU was 11-1 they shouldn’t have been in the discussion for the playoffs cause they wouldn’t have won their division? Bull shite this place would have melted






But they wouldn't be, though. And you know they wouldn't.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:58 pm to
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The fact is that conference titles and division titles should be respected by the committee


They are, but they are obviously not weighted heavily.

Fact of the matter is, UGA and Bama both lost to one team, Auburn. UGA lost to them MUCH worse, but got the rematch solely because they were in the opposite division.

You're going to leave a team out because they are in the west vs the east and can't get a rematch for that one reason?

If LSU was Alabama in this scenario, everyone would be touting the system.

People are just mad Alabama got in.

quote:

there is no reason to have a conference or a conference championship


They haven't mattered the last couple of years, but look back to the TCU/Baylor debacle. Had the Big 12 had a conf champ game, winner of that game would have gotten in. But because they didn't play, the committee left them both out.

Conf champ games can matter. They just haven't these last couple years.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12511 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 2:59 pm to
Honestly, if the conference championships are meaningless, then stop playing them and replace those games with a defacto playoff of the power five leaders and three at large teams to determine the final four. No additional games will need to be played, and every eligible team will have to earn their way in instead of sitting on a sofa hoping someone loses their way out.
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