- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Ok, the play of the game was the charge that was reversed
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:38 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:38 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
Looked like a clear block to me in real time
Yep. Too much sliding
0
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:39 pm to ReauxlTide222
Clearly the ref wasn't sure of his original call or another ref disagreed, and they used the restricted area review as a pretense for looking at it again. I don't really blame them and I think they ultimately got the call right, but the rule is bs because it is inconsistent with all of the other related rules.
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:41 pm to PearlJam
quote:
they used the restricted area review as a pretense for looking at it again
Which is bullshite
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:46 pm to ApexTiger
it was a blocking foul
that being said it's bullshite they can review it. a call in the last 2 minutes should be no different than a call in the first two minutes
that being said it's bullshite they can review it. a call in the last 2 minutes should be no different than a call in the first two minutes
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:49 pm to ApexTiger
The reason why I only watch basketball when it is the Semis and Finals is because the foul rules are completely subjective and you can get a 50/50 split from experienced refs and observers on a significant portion of all foul/infraction calls.
When it comes to very subjective criteria for penalties and infractions, Football is a close second.
The announcer and the TV ref commentator said Durant charged and the refs in the game reversed and called it on James. Totally subjective 50/50 split -- too subjective. This is the game of Basketball's biggest flaw, IMHO.
When it comes to very subjective criteria for penalties and infractions, Football is a close second.
The announcer and the TV ref commentator said Durant charged and the refs in the game reversed and called it on James. Totally subjective 50/50 split -- too subjective. This is the game of Basketball's biggest flaw, IMHO.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:53 pm to Champagne
Clarity on blk/charge review: The trigger is that if in the last 2 minutes of the 4th or overtime officials have doubt whether the defender was in the restricted area. While reviewing, they may also confirm if the defender was in legal guarding position when the contact occurred.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:53 pm to Champagne
You aren't wrong. Basketball, especially at this level, is really fricking hard to officiate. Add fan bias to a game where the are so many judgement calls and a few missed calls, and every game seems like it is heavily influenced by poor officiating.
I've just reached the point where I acknowledge this reality and view percieved bad calls as just part of the game. Fans that blame refs are annoying, even where the alleged blame has some merit.
I've just reached the point where I acknowledge this reality and view percieved bad calls as just part of the game. Fans that blame refs are annoying, even where the alleged blame has some merit.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:56 pm to ApexTiger
It was never close to being a charge. I saw the highlight. Can't believe they initially called it a charge. Never set and leans into the guy to block him. Easy foul.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:08 am to ApexTiger
Ehh rockets got jobbed out of at least 15 points in game 7. So I’m all about crap calls going for the Warriors.
Think that was a block not a charge
Think that was a block not a charge
Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:13 am to CobraCommander83
We know.
There wasn't any doubt..
There wasn't any doubt..
Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:58 am to VA LSU fan
quote:
Looked like a clear charge in real time.
In slow motion it looked 50/50.
Which is why it should have have been changed
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:52 am to CobraCommander83
quote:
Clarity on blk/charge review: The trigger is that if in the last 2 minutes of the 4th or overtime officials have doubt whether the defender was in the restricted area. While reviewing, they may also confirm if the defender was in legal guarding position when the contact occurred.
But all of the experts commenting on the game, including the retired NBA ref, all said that James was indeed in legal guarding position. Not one of them dissented. Then the refs actually officiating the game disagreed.
When the rules are that subjective and inscrutable that they elude discernment from even the most erudite of all observers, you have found a flaw in the game.
I am saying that this is a flaw in the game of NBA Basketball, IMHO. It is a severe flaw because of its impact on the final score.
NFL football has the same flaw in the subjectivity of Offensive Line Holding and Pass Interference calls. Such calls frequently take points off of the board OR place a team facing Fourth and Long into a First and Goal scrimmage situation, thus directly impacting the score.
In baseball, the subjectivity rests in calls of Strikes when a player is at-bat. This doesn't have a direct impact on the game score or at least not as much as Basketball and Football.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:58 am to ApexTiger
I think it was a block, but it was close.
However, it should have never been reviewed as it was CLEARLY outside of the restricted area.
However, it should have never been reviewed as it was CLEARLY outside of the restricted area.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:01 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
Looked like a clear block to me in real time Replay confirmed, IMO I don't mind the reversal. I'm just glad they got it right.
this
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:02 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:
However, it should have never been reviewed as it was CLEARLY outside of the restricted area.
quote:
The trigger is that if in the last 2 minutes of the 4th or overtime officials have doubt whether the defender was in the restricted area. While reviewing, they may also confirm if the defender was in legal guarding position when the contact occurred.
I guess this is the part I don't get. Being in or out of the restricted area is what can prompt the review, and only that, right? If so, how are they allowed to review and possibly reverse the block/charge call? If that's the case, make both of those scenarios reviewable under 2 minutes.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:28 pm to sicboy
Every charge/block should automatically taken to review from now on.
Every time a defender reaches in and the shooter flails like a 7 year old who didn’t get what they want, it should go to review to determine if it was a reach, or all ball establishing it being a 2, or 3 point attempt.
Make games 6 hours and 15 minutes.
At least we’ll get the right calls.
Every time a defender reaches in and the shooter flails like a 7 year old who didn’t get what they want, it should go to review to determine if it was a reach, or all ball establishing it being a 2, or 3 point attempt.
Make games 6 hours and 15 minutes.
At least we’ll get the right calls.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:29 pm to bwallcubfan
quote:
Yeah that doesn’t make it any better. I don’t know how that makes sense. If you review a foot on the 3 point line, can you look to see if he was fouled too?
I'm not saying it's a good rule but my understanding is that because it was reviewed under the "restricted area" review. I believe a defender cannot draw a charge in the restricted area. Not sure of the specifics and I'm sure someone else can clear that part up. But that is why charge/block is reviewable in that type of review alone.
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:33 pm to StraightCashHomey21
But none of the commentators presenting the game agreed with you. That includes the retired NBA ref who said it was a charge, in his opinion.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:38 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
reminded me of the officiating in the Houston Series game 7.
It was shite officiating, but you’re retarded if you think this was the reason they lost
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:40 pm to BillyBobfan24_7
My main take away is if this exact scenario would have been reversed and it happened to GSW in Cleveland it would have been explained away as well you are just going to get some calls at home especially when you are defending champs. The never leave it in the judges hands mentality.
But because it happened to LBJ it's blasphemy and he was robbed. Even though they still could have very easily won the game (though not guaranteed) with a made free throw or put back.
While the epic OT collapse is understandle given how they felt about the ending of the game, it still was there for the taking if they got their shite together instead of focusing on the 4th.
Similarly there were several times during regulation when a call didn't go their way and Lebron is focused on arguing with refs leaving a 5 on 4 at the other end.
But because it happened to LBJ it's blasphemy and he was robbed. Even though they still could have very easily won the game (though not guaranteed) with a made free throw or put back.
While the epic OT collapse is understandle given how they felt about the ending of the game, it still was there for the taking if they got their shite together instead of focusing on the 4th.
Similarly there were several times during regulation when a call didn't go their way and Lebron is focused on arguing with refs leaving a 5 on 4 at the other end.
Page 4 of 5
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News