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re: Ok, the play of the game was the charge that was reversed
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:43 pm to Ford Frenzy
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:43 pm to Ford Frenzy
What don’t yall get? The announcers said like 5 times that you don’t have to be set, it’s “legal guarding position”. I take that as if you beat the man to a specific spot you’re entitled to hold your ground. That’s what Lebron was doing and he got barreled into by KDs beta cuck arse. This was a job through and through, what a joke these finals are going to be.
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Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:57 pm to LanierSpots
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Which is why it should have have been changed
I wouldn't change unless there was no doubt that the original call was wrong. If you're 51% sure it was the wrong call that's not enough to overturn IMO.
Shitty job by this crew all night and it was exemplified by this call.
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:24 pm to ApexTiger
Have not read through all the pages on this thread. Having said that I think this was definitely a homer call. Reversed call in favor of the home team. Some of the calls late in the game has me believing the league office does have some control over the refs.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:26 pm to ApexTiger
It is uncanny the way the calls filter to GS, is it not?
To allow the refs to critique their own judgement call in slow motion when the player isn't even in the restricted area is an insult to our intelligence as fans of the game.
Do it all game, every judgement call. All minutes matter in the Finals. Make every minute count and go to the monitor on judgement calls. Otherwise it looks fishy at the very least.
LeBron would get the ball with a chance to run the clock down to below 10 seconds or right around there. I'll take these those chances with him shooting 60% and the lead.
Still pissed off the morning.
To allow the refs to critique their own judgement call in slow motion when the player isn't even in the restricted area is an insult to our intelligence as fans of the game.
Do it all game, every judgement call. All minutes matter in the Finals. Make every minute count and go to the monitor on judgement calls. Otherwise it looks fishy at the very least.
LeBron would get the ball with a chance to run the clock down to below 10 seconds or right around there. I'll take these those chances with him shooting 60% and the lead.
Still pissed off the morning.
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:27 pm to Ford Frenzy
The "he wasn't set" crowd is wrong. You can be moving and still take a charge. Durant was out of control.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:30 pm to ApexTiger
It was a block that was called wrong
But the call should stand.
It's like reversing a PI call in the final minute of a close football game
But the call should stand.
It's like reversing a PI call in the final minute of a close football game
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:37 pm to hendersonshands
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The "he wasn't set" crowd is wrong. You can be moving and still take a charge. Durant was out of control.
That's the only reason I initially thought reversing the call was legit but then Javie explained that you can be moving and still take a charge. This was not a sure call either way.
Gotta let that call stay. If they had initially called it a block no one could have a airtight case for a charge.
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:50 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Agree. Was clearly a block. LJ cries so much it’s hard to take his protests seriously, even when he might be right.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:00 pm to JuiceTerry
No, it’s like calling pass interference, taking 12 minutes real time to reverse an already pretty close call.
Example
Example
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:09 pm to hendersonshands
I have seen the charge call when the guy is moving/not set on more of glancing contact. Ex. A guy driving toward the hoop with the defender checking him and defender has good position and is awarded the charge. When the guy with the ball is heading straight towards the hoop and the defender is not guarding him but is squared up to him in the lane yes he has to be set.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:14 pm to Boomshockalocka
Juat had On zach lowe podcast
Lowe says block
Windhorst says block
Windhorst says cavs locker room says block but doesn’t think it was reviewable. Like a drug bust, but with an illegal search.
Lowe says block
Windhorst says block
Windhorst says cavs locker room says block but doesn’t think it was reviewable. Like a drug bust, but with an illegal search.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:42 pm to Boomshockalocka
It's just bullshite the refs abused a rule to review something because they couldn't agree on the call on the floor.
Mauer called charge, the other ref called block. They went and discussed, and decided to review instead of ruling one way or the other. They just used the bullshite reasoning of "was he in the restricted area?" to trigger the review when they knew he wasn't.
Regardless, I think it was a 50/50 call and 50/50 calls should not be overturned.
Mauer called charge, the other ref called block. They went and discussed, and decided to review instead of ruling one way or the other. They just used the bullshite reasoning of "was he in the restricted area?" to trigger the review when they knew he wasn't.
Regardless, I think it was a 50/50 call and 50/50 calls should not be overturned.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:43 pm to JohnnyKilroy
It's bullshite that they used every tool at their disposal to get a call right?
Come on now.
Come on now.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:44 pm to JohnnyKilroy
that’s fine by me. I would want them to get it right either way. And they did.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:49 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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It's bullshite that they used every tool at their disposal to get a call right?
Get it right according to whom?
They are people on both sides of the call, including NBA referees.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:53 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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It's bullshite that they used every tool at their disposal to get a call right?
Yes. They reviewed it under false pretenses.
Boom actually had a good analogy. It's like finding drugs during a search that legally shouldn't have happened.
The rule states that the reason for review must be to determine if the player was in the restricted area. You won't convince me a single ref on the floor last night thought LeBron could have been in the restricted area on that play.
I don't subscribe to the notion that abusing one rule to enforce another is "getting it right"
I also believe a 50/50 call should never be overturned.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:54 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Juat had On zach lowe podcast
I thought it was a block too but I'm not sure. I don't think most people are sure if they're being honest.
It goes back to what you called on the court. If you initially called it a block then it shouldn't be overturned. If you initially called it a charge it shouldn't be overturned. You can't flip that even if you're 51% sure that you're wrong. In this spot you need to be 100% sure. This isn't an out of bounds call that's purely objective.
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 6/1/18 at 3:09 pm to JohnnyKilroy
That was a windy analogy 
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