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Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:35 am to tduecen
quote:The entire 30 year "history" of closers
If Anything Rivera did deserve 100% since he is considered the best closer in baseball history.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:40 am to lsupride87
Still the best ever 
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:54 am to tduecen
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Jeter I can 100% understand not giving him 100% because was never the best SS in baseball during his time as ARod, Nomar, Tejada were all better players.
Yet here we are with people turning in ballots with only a vote for a guy that was never the best player in the league, let alone at his own position.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:59 am to McCaigBro69
Not my issue, I always thought Maddux should have been 100%
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:05 am to barry
So is Walker just getting left out because of Coors Field?
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:07 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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So is Walker just getting left out because of Coors Field?
Walker is likely in judging by the votes that have been made public.
Walker has a higher WAR than Jeter does in like 800 less games.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:09 am to McCaigBro69
Great. Thought for a while Walker was going to get screwed over.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:43 am to tduecen
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Not my issue, I always thought Maddux should have been 100%
There are a LOT of players that should have been 100% before Mariano.
Hopefully now that it's happened voters won't be such shitdicks about it.
Although it doesn't appear that will be the case.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:52 am to cgrand
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andruw jones is the glaring ommission for me
Right there with you. He is more than deserving
Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:58 am to tduecen
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Why? If Anything Rivera did deserve 100% since he is considered the best closer in baseball history.... Jeter I can 100% understand not giving him 100% because was never the best SS in baseball during his time as ARod, Nomar, Tejada were all better players.
Agreed.
In a sport where it's almost impossible to definitively say who's the "best of all time" at any position, Rivera is unequivocally the best closer of all time, period. His 100% is completely understandable. He's essentially the best non-starter of all time.
I not only understand the arguments for why Jeter shouldn't be unanimous, I actually support it, and I say that as a Yankee fan. The reasons above are good enough.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:02 pm to LSUBoo
quote:
There are a LOT of players that should have been 100% before Mariano.
QFT
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:05 pm to tduecen
I still laugh when I think of them moving Arod to third just to appease Jeter. For a large portion of Jeters career, he was average at best in the field.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:05 pm to dirtytigers
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1999 he hit .379 with 37 homers and finihsed 10th in the MVP race
99 Rockies went 72-90 that year.
Back then was much more focused on team record when dealing with an MVP than it is today.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:07 pm to Jcorye1
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I still laugh when I think of them moving Arod to third just to appease Jeter.
They already knew A Rod was getting bigger so was gonna be slower.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:15 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Fat Arod would still have been a better defender.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:08 pm to I Bleed Garnet
I follow the Rockies and watching Larry Walker, i viewed him as a hall of famer. Todd Helton after 2004, i didn't. Todd's last 9 years were ordinary.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:10 pm to Jcorye1
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Fat Arod
Fat?
That’s not at all what I was getting at
You mean Incredible Hulk A Rod
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:18 pm to dirtytigers
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Stats from the 90's are crazy, I was just looking at Larry Walker on Baseball reference and in 1999 he hit .379 with 37 homers and finihsed 10th in the MVP race
Walker's split from that season are even craizer
.............AVG....HR...RBI...OBP....OPS
Home....461......26....70.....531....1.410
Away.....286......11....45.....375.......894
Posted on 1/21/20 at 1:47 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Clemens not being in is a goddamn joke
He should be in. But I’m not going to shed a tear for him. He knew he was risking his HOF chances when he started PED’s and chose to do it anyway.
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