re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston

Then he should have at least been brought in for questioning then. If there was ANY possibility that it could have possibly happened the way should said, he should have been charged.

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you mean the Tallahassee police?

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yeah police are paid to investigate and make judgments if a person could be guilty. If they know he isn't why charge.

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she says it happened

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she could be lying

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she has DNA as evidence that it happened

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DNA shows that he had sex with her not that she was rapped.

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Two of his buddies that say it didn't happen?

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2 witnesses vs 0

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And that's enough for the DA to decide to not press charges?

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none of what you said is evidence it is speculation.

First DNA would have gotten on her panties no matter if it was rape or not.

Just because she says it happens doesn't mean it happens.

if she has no witnesses and he has two than it appears he has more evidence.

if the evidence doesn't point to rape she shouldn't get her day in court.

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So DNA and her saying it happened is not enough evidence for her to have her say in court.

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No. Believe it or not, every girl who's ever gotten fricked does not have a prima facie case that she was raped. There's more to rape than regret. There's more to rape than feeling pressured. There's more to rape than feeling rejected. You're not entitled to drag someone through a trial (which is an ordeal, not a fricking game in high school) if you can't at least show that what you say happened is largely supported by the available evidence. Believe it or not, trials are there to sort out the legal facts (and law) for accused people who are probably fricking guilty. Returning a "true bill" is a fancy way of saying that based upon the evidence presented in the investigation, this guy is probably fricking guilty. But he gets a trial, and the state has to prove every specification of the law we claim he violated, and he'll have every opportunity to shoot holes in our case.

You simply can't believe that there is some absolute right to ruin someone's life simply by accusing them of something. Believe me, it works that way more times than not anyway. But it's bullshite.

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So you admit that if he were an ordinary "joe" this would have been handled differently.

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Yeah, if he wasn't a prospective millionaire, the girl probably wouldn't have been in his room in the first place, and probably would have dropped the case after the police figured out that she was either a liar or a psycho.

i can't get over the bama fans outrage over this. the issue here isn't whether he did something illegal, its if they have a burden of proof that he did something illegal.

but since his buddies sais it didn't happen then we know their not lying ,right?

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CampusInsiders has received information indicating no charges in #JameisWinston case.

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It's been apparent for days. I haven't followed the case closely until recently, but all of the legal blogs I've visited already seemed bored with the suspense.

Biggest non-cliffhanger ever.

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That's where you're wrong. I just don't take either side. Guilty or not makes no difference to me. She should be able to tell her story to a unbiased jury. I have a lot more experience in these things than you think. Unlike you, the first you heard of it, you were already convinced she was a lying slut and there is no way this happened. Me on the other hand says one is lying. Let an unbiased jury decide.

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Oh this is bs and you know it. Y'all just want him charged so it'll increase the chance of Alabama lucking their way into another title game.

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That's where you're wrong. I just don't take either side. Guilty or not makes no difference to me. She should be able to tell her story to a unbiased jury. I have a lot more experience in these things than you think. Unlike you, the first you heard of it, you were already convinced she was a lying slut and there is no way this happened. Me on the other hand says one is lying. Let an unbiased jury decide.

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You don't charge unless there is evidence to support a conviction. It is unconstitutional and wrong to put someone through an arrest and prosecution, requiring them to provide a defense (at extreme cost) just because there was an allegation.

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but since his buddies sais it didn't happen then we know their not lying ,right?

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he would have two witnesses to collaborate his story

she would have no-one

but again witnesses don't prove guilt, evidence proves guit.

DNA isn't evidence of rape its evidence of sex.

you gave me nothing else.

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And if it is proven that she was lying the he has the opportunity to press charges against her. Again, not saying he's guilty or innocent. Just she should be given a chance to prove her case if her and her lawyer feel they can.

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What are you fricking missing? Trials are there for the ACCUSED. They're a benefit granted to the ACCUSED. They are the state saying that we have this shite ton of evidence to lock your arse away with, but you still have a right to make us make the case in public, and you have the right to take a shite on that case if you can.

There is no "right to a trial" for a victim, unless there is evidence strongly pointing to the accused being guilty. It's not a fricking arbitration or civil litigation. It's putting someone's life in the hands of the state. You don't have the right to do that just to tell your fricking story. If the evidence doesn't tell your story, sit the frick down and let it go, because you're probably full of shite.