re: NIL about to put in stipulations

I kind of want it to destroy the sport. So the sport can go back to being what it should be. At this point a lot of these guys are pros. Good, let them go be pros somewhere else. When you are more worried about your signing bonus, than your gpa, you don't belong in college.

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who is "college football"? that's just a vague phrase. there's nothing or nobody that can do that. unionizing is the only way to reign it in but that's not college football doing anything.

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Exactly. What entity is being implied here to enforce this? The NCAA? They've lost just about every court case they've been involved in. Legally, the courts have deemed them pretty toothless. That's why it we see the chaos we do now. They basically just thew up their hands and said "frick it. Everything goes." They didn't want to, it was just becoming expensive to fight all the things they had no chance of winning anyway.

The NCAA could dissolve and another intuition take its place, but they'd just be facing the exact same issue. There will have to be some sort of collective bargaining agreement between a players' union and the schools/NCAA that the courts agree to allow and give exemption status to anti-trust laws like the major professional sports leagues have the protection of. But the potential players' union will have to be built, the infrastructure of it created, the headquarters bought or built, employees hired, leadership built and put in different places, the organization set up, healthcare and insurance contracts bid on and agreed to, etc...And none of that will be free. Or cheap.

Professional players pay a nice portion of their salary to union fees. And the infrastructure for those is already set up. And it's gonna significantly cut into the profits of the 1st group of players who have to set it up. What's their incentive to doing that right now when every advantage is currently theirs? What could possibly ever incentivize them? It's not like they'll be in college for that long anyway. Do they care about the overall good of the sport of college football when they'll be done with it in 3-4 years. Do they care about the players who will the next "thems" in 1,2, 3, 4, 25, 50 years? Do they care if college football is even around after they're done with it?

So I agree that unionizing is the only way to reign it in. I just don't see the incentive--right now, it may become more apparent later--for the players to unionize. They would have to sacrifice too much that they will likely not see any significant benefits from long-term. I mean, they could get health insurance for life. But that would cost a whole lot, especially since, again, they're only gonna be in college for 3-5 years and most of them have convinced themselves they're going to have NFL careers that will give them those life-long benefits anyway, only much better.

I just don't see a solution that incentivizes the players to change what has become the status quo. They have the leverage. If the schools, conferences, collectives, NCAA, whoever's on the other side try to take it back by implementing rules, the players could sue for collusion. I'm not a lawyer by any means, but I think it may take Congress to pass constitutional laws that are upheld by courts. People scoff at Congress for getting involved in these things--"Don't they have anything better to do?" Perhaps fair, but they get involved in a lot less than a multi-billion dollar industry that affects the economies of cities, states, and the universities they reside in. If college football folds, so will a lot of universities who rely on football not just for the revenue, but their university brands. It will affect exposure, attendance, tuition fees, research grants, etc...I talked to a guy from Utah today. Asked where he went to school. Said Leehigh or something. School had changed names, but was around that area. Said it had higher enrollment than both BYU and Utah. But nobody's ever heard of it because they don't have a football team. You don't think that affects what they can charge for tuition, the professors they can attract, the schools of study they can offer, the grants they get, the quality of student they have to take. He told me flat out that they basically have to just accept anybody. Can't afford to turn anybody away right now.

What would happen to the schools we love if football was no longer the face of the university? Would they wither and die? Would our degrees become less valuable as the schools can't afford to be highly accredited. Just so many unintended consequences to all this. Some didn't care about any of them, just "frick it, let them all get paid as long as my school pays enough to compete." Others, like a lot of us in here, could easily some of the very inevitable unintended consequences. But very few could predict them all. Who knows. We'll see eventually, though, I guess.

Not going to happen. No school will want to be the first to do that and if they all collectively do it- lawsuit

There’s no solution here besides making them employees. That’s where it’s all heading.

They can fake an injury

So what if it doesn't. Or maybe it will like the NFL Combine new rules. A message is being sent.

This is what I'm kind of referring to. The school is USC but the all this talk about money and no talk about what they actually should be going to college for. Maybe the NFL and UFL can work something out. But too much of this is not good for college football.

And for the record, coaches make too damn much money too.

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All these months later, one parent of a player on USC’s defense wishes he’d asked the finite questions up front.

When will my son be paid?

How much is he going to be paid?

How frequently is he going to be paid?

When they visited USC, the parent said, they’d had a meeting with USC general manager Dave Emerick, and were offered an NIL valuation through House of Victory – lower than what other programs were offering. But they chose USC in the end, ultimately, because of the chance to play for Riley, and the comfort pitched to them: an apartment for the player, a car, and the still-robust number offered.

But what House of Victory offered once the player arrived was half of what they’d originally discussed on their visit, the parent said. And that contract was broken down into a combination of passive and active income they didn’t expect. According to a screenshot of the contract provided to the Southern California News Group, the player would be paid a monthly sum for House of Victory to use his name, image and likeness; an additional payment in the contract hinged on a certain amount of promotional deliverables being met, such as the completion of a post on social media or a “Physical Event appearance.”

And quickly, the apartment became more a burden than a comfort – the player forced to pay rent of his own accord off his salary from House of Victory. Both recurring usage-rights and completed-deliverable payments came inconsistent, not on a first-of-the-month or biweekly basis, according to a screenshot of the parent’s bank-account alerts.

Eventually, the player was dinged enough for late fees on rent that the parent reached out several times to USC to express frustration – “wasn’t pretty conversations,” to try to reach a solution of consistent pay. They ended up receiving the full value of the contract. But the memory of a larger valuation still lingers.

“It’s just confusing,” the parent said. “I don’t really know. Like, at the end of the day, it just feels like – just got duped.”

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Hard to say I don't like this. I miss the days when the Rose Bowl meant something.

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Or any bowl game for that matter. Our society is nothing but a bunch of front runners, worried about nothing but money. No more pride in team/location/school. Everyone is out for themselves because it has become socially acceptable to be that way

This would be terrific news. The NIL shite has been nothing but bad for college football, but this would at least be a help.

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I don’t really believe this. Who would benefit from this?

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The a-hole kid who said pay me $1M then I will go play at your school.... that's who.... Play the game then MF, no sitting out... Play every game or else you lose 50% of your $1M for the first game you try to sit out healthy, then 10% each other game, and 20% for the bowl game = these MF will play

Try to transfer out anytime during season 1, then you lose 100%