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NFL Combine: QB, RB and WRs. Xavier Worthy runs a 4.21 40
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:44 pm
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Good read
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Adam Schefter
The official 40-yard dash time is now in: And WR Xavier Worthy owns the fastest 40 ever recorded at the combine - a 4.21.
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Thursday, Feb. 29 (3 p.m. to 8 p.m. ET): Defensive linemen, linebackers
Friday, March 1 (3 p.m. to 9 p.m. ET): Defensive backs, tight ends
Saturday, March 2 (1 p.m. to 9 p.m. ET): Quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs
Sunday, March 3 (1 p.m. to 5 p.m. ET): Offensive linemen
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Welcome to draft season, folks. My flight touches down in Indianapolis Monday afternoon, and most of the NFL will be there by Tuesday. What’s waiting for them is one of the best crops of top-end players in years. There are quarterbacks, receivers, tackles, a deep crew of corners, and a pass-rusher or two who project as blue-chippers at cornerstone positions.
Last year, in our reporting, we came across the fact that the Lions—who wound up with an absolute gold mine drafting guys at non-premium spots such as Jahmyr Gibbs, Jack Campbell, Sam LaPorta and Brian Branch—only had14 players with first-round grades, and of those, only landed four of them. Detroit wasn’t the only team with that low of a number. It seemed everyone I talked to had a number in the mid-teens.
That won’t be the case this year.
“You could count to 32 this year,” said an AFC college scouting director, “and still find a first-round quality player there.”
“It’s a really good draft to need a quarterback or tackle,” added an AFC exec. “It’s really good at the premium positions in general.”
So where in a lot of years, I’d be in this space tamping down the optimism that every fan chases, thinking somehow players in the fifth and sixth and seventh rounds are going to project into starting roles, this year I’ll take governor off. Have fun. Go nuts. Even if the class as a whole has its flaws, the first round should be a blast, full of big-time players.
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Do Nabers and Odunze have any chance to catch Harrison?
The LSU and Washington stars are really good. But this is similar to the question of whether or not Maye and Daniels can catch Williams, with Harrison in the neighborhood of Julio Jones, A.J. Green and Calvin Johnson as a prospect.
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Who is going to star at the combine?
I love this one. From our scouts, we got Texas DT Byron Murphy—“He might run a 4.8 at 305 pounds”—Turner and Benson. Plus everyone said Iowa CB Cooper DeJean would’ve blown everything out if he wasn’t missing the physical testing due to injury.
Then, Muench gave me Worthy, Guyton, Clemson CB Nate Wiggins, North Carolina State ILB Payton Wilson, Penn State edge Chop Robinson, BYU OT Kingsley Suamataia and Michigan edge Jaylan Harrell.
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Nagy raised Wisconsin’s super-sized tailback Braelon Allen, who just turned 20 last month. The 245-pounder’s 40-yard dash looms as a swing factor for his stock. And then, Nagy brought up a player that sort of surprised me: Bowers.
I had one scout tell me he thinks Bowers will come in under 6'2". Another estimated he’ll be just over that mark. Either way, this unicorn of a college tight end, who was Mr. Everything for Georgia and a big-time playmaker on two national-title teams, even a very willing blocker, is a real outlier from a size standpoint. (Dallas Clark or Shannon Sharpe might be the best comps, in that sense.) So it’d really help if Bowers’s athleticism makes up for it.
“He’s a great player, don’t get me wrong, and he’s the unquestioned No. 1 tight end,” says Nagy. “You see the thing Daniel Jeremiah put out this week about positional value and why teams might be leery of taking Brock Bowers up high? It was basically just tying it back to the franchise tag number. You’re really not getting much of a discount. He was using the Chargers as an example. If the Chargers take Brock Bowers at five, you’re basically paying a tight end top-of-the-scale money, for a guy that hasn’t even played yet.
“You’d be paying him like a $12 million signing bonus. That’s what you’d be paying the top guy in free agency at that position, whereas if you get a receiver up there, compared to what you’d have to pay that guy in free agency, you’re getting a huge discount.”
Good read
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:50 pm to RLDSC FAN
Will watch exactly 0 minutes of it this year
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
Wonder who’s going to be the guy that kills his workout and goes way higher than he should this year.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I had one scout tell me he thinks Bowers will come in under 6'2"
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You’d be paying him like a $12 million signing bonus. That’s what you’d be paying the top guy in free agency at that position
It’s hard to believe Brock Bowers isn’t at least 6’3”, but if he’s not even 6’2”, combined with the veteran TE salary scale, then that’s how a talented player that everyone projects to be a very high pick can drop in the draft.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:58 pm to Ghost of Colby
Yep, the media has been pushing him as a top 5 pick but I highly doubt it happens. There's no need to waste a high pick on that position. You can find good enough TEs later in the draft.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:07 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I had one scout tell me he thinks Bowers will come in under 6'2". Another estimated he’ll be just over that mark.
How?
Dude looked like Frankenstein out there.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:10 pm to RLDSC FAN
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There's no need to waste a high pick on that position. You can find good enough TEs later in the draft.
I don't think thats any more true for TEs than it is any other position except QB. So few of them get drafted really high that it creates a bias in everyone's mind. And if Kyle Pitts had just gone to a non-Arthur Smith coached team I think the perception of 1st round tight ends is very different
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Adam Schefter
Michigan is sending 18 players to the combine this year, the highest number of players any school has had at the combine since at least 2003.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:21 pm to RLDSC FAN
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There's no need to waste a high pick on that position. You can find good enough TEs later in the draft.
Bengals will take him at #18
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:23 pm to Choupique19
That would be a great spot for him. But don't you think the Bengals should be going Oline?
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:55 pm to RLDSC FAN
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That would be a great spot for him. But don't you think the Bengals should be going Oline?
I'd rather they go RT or DL, but Bowers would be hard to pass on.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:16 pm to Ghost of Colby
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It’s hard to believe Brock Bowers isn’t at least 6’3”, but if he’s not even 6’2”, combined with the veteran TE salary scale, then that’s how a talented player that everyone projects to be a very high pick can drop in the draft.
I think he's gonna drop. But the recent successes of under sized receivers is driving his stock the same way Lamar is helping Jayden Daniels.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
I'll be really interested in JD5 H/W and what he runs in the 40
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:43 pm to RLDSC FAN
MHJ won't be participating in on-field work at the combine. He also isn't being represented by an agent.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:53 pm to KosmoCramer
The Harrison hype is so unreal
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:13 pm to UnluckyTiger
I mean, not really. He's 6'4, 205, an elite route runner, elite hands, catch radius and sideline catch ability, with a higher top end speed in the open field than any player in the NFL last season, never been in off the field trouble, and is reportedly the hardest worker on the team.
AJ Green went 4th, and Julio Jones went 6th. Those are the comps.
AJ Green went 4th, and Julio Jones went 6th. Those are the comps.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:15 pm to KosmoCramer
He won't get past the Cardinals at 4
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:20 pm to UnluckyTiger
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The Harrison hype is so unreal
Also consider your take last year regarding CJ Stroud:
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Another Ohio St starting QB that will be a bust.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:22 pm to Sterling Archer
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I'll be really interested in JD5 H/W and what he runs in the 40
He’s not running or doing any workouts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:30 pm to Ghost of Colby
If he makes it to the saints, I say we run to the podium
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