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re: NCAA rules Committee expected to change OT and Targeting penalties
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:34 pm to BlackCoffeeKid
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:34 pm to BlackCoffeeKid
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7 per year is not a high number.
Which is why i put that in my post
so few games, yet let's blow it up~
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:38 pm to SeeeeK
Yeah, the guy who said it seemed like a high number to him triggered my urge to quantify how unlikely it actually is
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:38 pm to BlackCoffeeKid
I want to know how many these games that go to OT end up having to use the mandatory go for two rule. That's probably more fair considering a lot of those games that got to a 3rd OT probably got stalled out by the mandatory rule before they got to a 5th OT
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:43 pm to SeeeeK
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If player gets a 2nd targeting call during the season, he will be suspended for next full game on top of the game he was kicked out of for the hit.
What the fricking frick?
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:44 pm to ReauxlTide222
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was pretty fricking sure or hopeful that they were going to change the rule and stop ejecting kids for clearly accidental grazing of an opponent's helmet.
They are saying it will be harder to confirm now
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The second adjustment to the targeting rule deals with the instant replay review. Instant replay officials will be directed to examine all aspects of the play and confirm the foul when all elements of targeting are present. If any element of targeting cannot be confirmed, then the replay official will overturn the targeting foul. There will not be an option for letting the call on the field stand during a targeting review.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:47 pm to Dire Wolf
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They also claim to make targetting harder to confirm and easier to overturn but I’ll believe that when i see it.
Basically they are saying it’s innocent unless proven guilty
yeah, they're not changing the definition of targeting, and based on the verbiage of the rule, it's far to all encompassing. They're also adding blind side blocks as potential targeting fouls. So they had an opportunity to address people's concerns over the call and just made it even worse. Well done, NCAA, as usual.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:50 pm to Dire Wolf
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They are saying it will be harder to confirm now
They can say all they want, but it's not hard to find some aspect of targeting in any call made on the field. Regardless of what the rule says or doesn't say, I'll believe it won;t be called the same way when I see it. If I was a betting man, I think targeting calls will happen even more often next year. Making the penalties worse is even dumber, though
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:54 pm to CottonWasKing
Can someone define targeting?
The ncaa can't seem to.
Neither can the nfl.
21st century, loaded with technologies out the wazoo & the supposed best leagues cannot define a major penalty.
The ncaa can't seem to.
Neither can the nfl.
21st century, loaded with technologies out the wazoo & the supposed best leagues cannot define a major penalty.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:55 pm to Dire Wolf
I see.
So does that mean a defender HAS to hit with his crown for targeting to be confirmed? Because this would eliminate a ton of these horrible calls. Similar to raising the DUI .08 level but making the punishments much more severe.
I wouldn't mind that. But for some reason I don't think that's how it will be applied.
ETA: I think I misinterpreted what they meant.
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No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul.
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No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)
So does that mean a defender HAS to hit with his crown for targeting to be confirmed? Because this would eliminate a ton of these horrible calls. Similar to raising the DUI .08 level but making the punishments much more severe.
I wouldn't mind that. But for some reason I don't think that's how it will be applied.
ETA: I think I misinterpreted what they meant.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:57 pm to SeeeeK
I saw the thread title and I was like...
then I read the post and I was like...
then I read the post and I was like...
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:00 pm to lsufball19
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They can say all they want, but it's not hard to find some aspect of targeting in any call made on the field. Regardless of what the rule says or doesn't say, I'll believe it won;t be called the same way when I see it. If I was a betting man, I think targeting calls will happen even more often next year. Making the penalties worse is even dumber, though
I agree, this is a product of lawyer making rules. They are selling us the same shite with fancier words
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:09 pm to SeeeeK
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NCAA rule committee proposes if game reaches a 5th OT, teams would then alternate 2-point conversions until a winner was determined
Why wait till 5th OT? Just make the 2nd team that scored play for the win by going for 2.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:14 pm to PeteRose
Or instead of starting from the 25, back them up to the 35 or 40.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:19 pm to MountainTiger
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Or instead of starting from the 25, back them up to the 35 or 40.
I'd even say midfield. Have them convert a couple first downs before getting into field goal range.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:21 pm to SeeeeK
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If player gets a 2nd targeting call during the season, he will be suspended for next full game on top of the game he was kicked out of for the hit.
bama refs be like
bama gonna be gifted playoffs by the refs for the next 35 years
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:21 pm to facher08
I think the same thing make them start from 50 yard line and after the first OT move to forced 2PT conversions.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:23 pm to facher08
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I'd even say midfield. Have them convert a couple first downs before getting into field goal range.
I'd be fine with that too. Anything out of FG range would be ok with me. But you don't want to get into the opposite situation where neither team can score and you still end up with 4 or 5 OTs.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:26 pm to MountainTiger
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But you don't want to get into the opposite situation where neither team can score and you still end up with 4 or 5 OTs.
True, but I'd see that happening a lot less since offenses air it out so much now.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:31 pm to SeeeeK
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NCAA rule committee proposes if game reaches a 5th OT, teams would then alternate 2-point conversions until a winner was determined
You know what would end OT's even quicker? Just make teams go for two starting in the first.
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