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re: NCAA rules Committee expected to change OT and Targeting penalties

Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:34 pm to
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7 per year is not a high number.


Which is why i put that in my post

so few games, yet let's blow it up~
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11725 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:38 pm to
Yeah, the guy who said it seemed like a high number to him triggered my urge to quantify how unlikely it actually is
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145180 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:38 pm to
I want to know how many these games that go to OT end up having to use the mandatory go for two rule. That's probably more fair considering a lot of those games that got to a 3rd OT probably got stalled out by the mandatory rule before they got to a 5th OT
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:39 pm to
Oh what the frick
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:43 pm to
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If player gets a 2nd targeting call during the season, he will be suspended for next full game on top of the game he was kicked out of for the hit.


What the fricking frick?
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

was pretty fricking sure or hopeful that they were going to change the rule and stop ejecting kids for clearly accidental grazing of an opponent's helmet.


They are saying it will be harder to confirm now

quote:

The second adjustment to the targeting rule deals with the instant replay review. Instant replay officials will be directed to examine all aspects of the play and confirm the foul when all elements of targeting are present. If any element of targeting cannot be confirmed, then the replay official will overturn the targeting foul. There will not be an option for letting the call on the field stand during a targeting review.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64798 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:47 pm to
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They also claim to make targetting harder to confirm and easier to overturn but I’ll believe that when i see it.

Basically they are saying it’s innocent unless proven guilty


yeah, they're not changing the definition of targeting, and based on the verbiage of the rule, it's far to all encompassing. They're also adding blind side blocks as potential targeting fouls. So they had an opportunity to address people's concerns over the call and just made it even worse. Well done, NCAA, as usual.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:50 pm to
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They are saying it will be harder to confirm now


They can say all they want, but it's not hard to find some aspect of targeting in any call made on the field. Regardless of what the rule says or doesn't say, I'll believe it won;t be called the same way when I see it. If I was a betting man, I think targeting calls will happen even more often next year. Making the penalties worse is even dumber, though
Posted by NolakcbrTiger
Member since Jun 2018
1210 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:54 pm to
Can someone define targeting?
The ncaa can't seem to.
Neither can the nfl.
21st century, loaded with technologies out the wazoo & the supposed best leagues cannot define a major penalty.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:55 pm to
I see.


quote:

No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul.
quote:

No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)



So does that mean a defender HAS to hit with his crown for targeting to be confirmed? Because this would eliminate a ton of these horrible calls. Similar to raising the DUI .08 level but making the punishments much more severe.

I wouldn't mind that. But for some reason I don't think that's how it will be applied.

ETA: I think I misinterpreted what they meant.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:57 pm to
I saw the thread title and I was like...



then I read the post and I was like...

Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36665 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:00 pm to
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They can say all they want, but it's not hard to find some aspect of targeting in any call made on the field. Regardless of what the rule says or doesn't say, I'll believe it won;t be called the same way when I see it. If I was a betting man, I think targeting calls will happen even more often next year. Making the penalties worse is even dumber, though


I agree, this is a product of lawyer making rules. They are selling us the same shite with fancier words
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:09 pm to
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NCAA rule committee proposes if game reaches a 5th OT, teams would then alternate 2-point conversions until a winner was determined


Why wait till 5th OT? Just make the 2nd team that scored play for the win by going for 2.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
14664 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:14 pm to
Or instead of starting from the 25, back them up to the 35 or 40.
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:19 pm to
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Or instead of starting from the 25, back them up to the 35 or 40.


I'd even say midfield. Have them convert a couple first downs before getting into field goal range.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30065 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:21 pm to
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If player gets a 2nd targeting call during the season, he will be suspended for next full game on top of the game he was kicked out of for the hit.


bama refs be like

bama gonna be gifted playoffs by the refs for the next 35 years
Posted by Nagler
College Station
Member since Apr 2012
115 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:21 pm to
I think the same thing make them start from 50 yard line and after the first OT move to forced 2PT conversions.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14664 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:23 pm to
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I'd even say midfield. Have them convert a couple first downs before getting into field goal range.

I'd be fine with that too. Anything out of FG range would be ok with me. But you don't want to get into the opposite situation where neither team can score and you still end up with 4 or 5 OTs.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4354 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:26 pm to
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But you don't want to get into the opposite situation where neither team can score and you still end up with 4 or 5 OTs.


True, but I'd see that happening a lot less since offenses air it out so much now.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43859 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:31 pm to
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NCAA rule committee proposes if game reaches a 5th OT, teams would then alternate 2-point conversions until a winner was determined


You know what would end OT's even quicker? Just make teams go for two starting in the first.
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