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Posted by Rayburn8
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:28 pm to
Has it been confirmed that Miami is resigning Whiteside?
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:30 pm to
Such a random tweet, what does that even mean?
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Has it been confirmed that Miami is resigning Whiteside?



from the man himself

quote:

I’ve played on eight teams since college — from Reno to Sioux Falls to Sichuan, China.

I am not ready for there to be a ninth.

I have decided to re-sign with Miami. I just wanted to take this time to tell all the fans how much you mean to this team, and to me.

Can’t wait to get back to work and try to bring another championship to Miami. #HeatNation


LINK
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:37 pm to
He gets to the line almost 9 times a game so he's more than just a jump shooter. 4.5 and 4 is also pretty solid from a 2.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:43 pm to
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He gets to the line almost 9 times a game so he's more than just a jump shooter. 4.5 and 4 is also pretty solid from a 2.
Are there any other examples of players good enough to be near max whose teams are worse offensively AND defensively when they're on the floor?

Honest question.
Posted by kadillak
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:46 pm to
An underrated aspect of the Derozan deal is the synergy Toronto keeps by retaining him. Part of why GS is so good on defense -- their units have tons of game experience together and know each other's rotations extremely well. I think Toronto is doing a good job of doing the same thing with their core and they should be able build upon last year with a healthy Carroll. I have a lot of faith in Masai Ujuri.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:47 pm to
Whiteside has more wisdom than I gave him credit for. He'll be the best version of himself in Miami.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:52 pm to
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Whiteside has more wisdom than I gave him credit for. He'll be the best version of himself in Miami.
Of all the guys to NOT do the constant meetings and let free agency linger and soak it all up, Whiteside is by far the last guy I would have expected to make a quick decision like he did.

Much like Derozan, not a fan of that deal. Whiteside is wayyyyy overrated IMO.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:54 pm to
Whiteside is a beast. Happy he's getting paid.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:54 pm to
Whiteside is a stat chaser.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:55 pm to
The dude had like 7 triple doubles with blocks last year.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:55 pm to
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Whiteside is a stat stuffer.


That's fresh
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Whiteside is a stat chaser.
Bob Voulgaris was killing it on Twitter a few days ago, throwing up tons of videos of Whiteside's defensive woes. He then named I think 11 bigs he thought were better than Whiteside defensively.

he basically negates all that he does well defensively with all of the stuff he does not do well.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:56 pm to
I edited that 2 seconds after meant chaser.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:58 pm to
the thing about whiteside is that he ain't listening to NOBODY now that he's got paid
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:58 pm to
Been down that path before man, some people really freak out if you don't think Whiteside is the best defensive big in the league. Pre-Bosh dropping out of the lineup they were better defense with Whiteside off the floor, but stats tho.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:59 pm to
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The dude had like 7 triple doubles with blocks last year.
1. It was 3.

2. Now how about every time he got wildly out of position to chase a block on a player already taking a low % contested shot and then gave his many an easy rebound/putback...that doesn't show up in a boxscore, so we don't realize it.

For most of the season, the Heat's defensive was worse with him on the court, they did finish slightly better. The Heat rebound better when he's off the court.

He's forever out of position, something not easily seen, certainly not in a boxscore.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:59 pm to
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the thing about whiteside is that he ain't listening to NOBODY now that he's got paid
That would worry the hell out of me, seeing his antics the past 1.5 years on tiny contracts doing things that could potentially harm his ability to get the big contract, and how seeing him with $100 mil.

This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 2:00 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:59 pm to
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@ESPNSteinLine
ESPN sources say that Bucks have an agreement with Mirza Teletovic on a three-year deal worth $30 million
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:00 pm to
And his metrics still ultimately check out as someone who gives you quality defense. He's top 10 in DBPM, top 5 in defensive win shares, 3rd in DRB%, and 1st in block%. Yes he has some flaws, mainly defending the P&R, but I think his overall value, especially on defense, is high
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