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re: NBA Offseason Trade & FA thread: KD To Ws, Wade to Bulls
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:00 pm to shel311
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:00 pm to shel311
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Much like Derozan, not a fan of that deal. Whiteside is wayyyyy overrated IMO.
As a talent, he's rare. There aren't enough 7' big men with his type of athleticism to go around. I don't have a problem with the deal.
You just hope he stays motivated but no one can predict the future.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:00 pm to RTR America
That's an excellent signing for them. They need shooters.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:01 pm to RTR America
He has the 2nd highest PER of any post player over the last two seasons.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:01 pm to WestCoastAg
He was MUCH better in the 2nd half of the season.
I'm honestly way more worried about his drive after finally getting paid than anything else
I'm honestly way more worried about his drive after finally getting paid than anything else
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:02 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:Because literally none of those things factor in being out of position and your guy getting a rebound put back, screwing up a P&R. That's all well and great, it does nothing to show his faults.
And his metrics still ultimately check out as someone who gives you quality defense. He's top 10 in DBPM, top 5 in defensive win shares, 3rd in DRB%, and 1st in block%
quote:He's a good defensive player, yes. He's just way overrated as a defender. He's not THAT good. He's the poster boy for stats don't tell the whole story.
Yes he has some flaws, mainly defending the P&R, but I think his overall value, especially on defense, is high
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:02 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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He has the 2nd highest PER of any post player over the last two seasons.
No one is denying the stats man. That was like the entire point of the discussion.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:03 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Again, all the things he does really poorly are things that won't show up on these counting stats.
He has the 2nd highest PER of any post player over the last two seasons.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:04 pm to RTR America
quote:Bulk of those minutes were playing against 2nd unit with the MIA 2nd unit.
He was MUCH better in the 2nd half of the season.
quote:And there's that as well.
I'm honestly way more worried about his drive after finally getting paid than anything else
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:04 pm to RTR America
What I'm saying is that although he may be a little overrated defensively, he's overall very much worth his new contract. If he keeps up that production that is.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:05 pm to shel311
What wer Miamis per 100 defense stats with him on and off the floor? Genuinely curious
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:08 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Again, a lot of that production is negated by things that don't show up in his stat sheet, so the production you see isn't as good as it actually looks like on paper.
If he keeps up that production that is.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:08 pm to WestCoastAg
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What wer Miamis per 100 defense stats with him on and off the floor? Genuinely curious
I think it ended up pretty neutral. With healthy Bosh they were better with Whiteside off the floor, with no Bosh they were better with Whiteside on.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:09 pm to WestCoastAg
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What wer Miamis per 100 defense stats with him on and off the floor? Genuinely curious
One moment...
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:11 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:The team's Drtg was .9 points better with him on the floor. It was negative most of the season, until he went to the 2nd unit.
What wer Miamis per 100 defense stats with him on and off the floor? Genuinely curious
Team's block % goes up by .1% when he's in the game. And I was off in a post above, the team's rebounding % does suffer when he's out, but not by as much as you'd think.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:11 pm to Epic Cajun
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95 on the floor, not sure when hes off, though.
Nah. 105.1 ON. 104.2 OFF.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:12 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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JohnnyKilroy
Yea, I was looking at the wrong stats
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:15 pm to Epic Cajun
He's a plus in every advanced stat except slightly negative in steal percentage and drtg
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:16 pm to Epic Cajun
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Free agent Chandler Parsons is nearing agreement on a four-year, $94M max deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, league sources tell @TheVertical.
Not sure why he would choose Memphis over Portland.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:16 pm to RTR America
Parsons to the Grizz 
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:16 pm to Epic Cajun
Nice one Blake
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Blake Griffin – Verified account ?@blakegriffin32 the fact that nobody has legally changed their name to "sources" and taken credit for every breaking sports story is insane
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