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re: NBA Free Agency Thread - Russell Westbrook traded to the Rockets for Chris Paul & picks

Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:20 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:20 am to
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and I think KD winning 2 finals MVPs and still not getting the credit he thinks he deserves is the cautionary tale for a lot of other players in the NBA.
While true, I feel that it was such an outlier that we probably won't see something like that again.


For example(and this is just a hypothetical, no one slam me on the contents lol) if the Lakers won the title this season and AD won Finals MVP, I don't think the overall sentiment for AD's accomplishment would be anywhere near KD's.

Disclaimer to say this board would not be the best judge, as AD would absolutely get slammed like KD did on TD, but that's because of the obvious Pels link.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:24 am to
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While true, I feel that it was such an outlier that we probably won't see something like that again.
It almost happened again this offseason. If Kawhi would've signed with the Lakers, I think people would've discounted AD's hypothetical championships.

Hopefully we don't see something like that any time soon, though.

ETA: two stars, I don't think it matters really. 3 stars, or signing with a championship team that keeps it's core together will see backlash, IMO.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 11:26 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59687 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:39 am to
Meh. Harden has had more power than the coach and GM for a while now. It’s a players league. And he has earned it. even with les was there you always got the feeling that harden could get rid of the coach or gm pretty easily And he has def been signing off on all moves for years except for the very minor ones.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 11:45 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:59 am to
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Did the Westbrook/Chris Paul thread really get deleted?


What the frick
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65489 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:18 pm to
im going to enjoy watching russ throw up 15 threes a night and make 30%

Coach D
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:03 pm to
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two stars, I don't think it matters really. 3 stars, or signing with a championship team that keeps it's core together will see backlash, IMO.






backlash?
What emotional drama?

Walton joined Larry mchale and the chief after rehabbing stress fractures.
Got 6th man.
They won the championship.

Then he retired.






Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110578 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:08 pm to
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It almost happened again this offseason
No, not at all.

Kawhi would not have been joining a team that won 73 games the year before.


It's not even close to the same. It would be more like Lebron/AD/Kawhi getting together, and the following year they get another All NBA player. What you're describing isnt remotely the same.

Hell, Lebron/AD/Kawhi and a bunch of vet minimums is arguably not as good as GS BEFORE KD.

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If Kawhi would've signed with the Lakers, I think people would've discounted AD's hypothetical championships.
Well, if Kawhi did that, there's almost no shot AD would be winning any FInals MVPs due to the usage of Lebron and Kawhi. And given how much Lebron and Kawhi have accomplished, people would be crazy to discount those 2 if either won the Finals MVP.

Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79107 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:16 pm to
Tyson Chandler is IN!
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27299 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:16 pm to
Tyson Chandler has signed with Houston. He was signed using the full 1 year AARP exception.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59687 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:21 pm to
Good vet signing to back up Clint and rebound and catch lobs from russ with the second unit. one move left to make now is to find that backup for PJ.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32345 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:27 pm to
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No, not at all.

Kawhi would not have been joining a team that won 73 games the year before.


It's not even close to the same. It would be more like Lebron/AD/Kawhi getting together, and the following year they get another All NBA player. What you're describing isnt remotely the same.

Hell, Lebron/AD/Kawhi and a bunch of vet minimums is arguably not as good as GS BEFORE KD.
It would've been an extreme version of what happened in Miami with LeBron. Do you not remember people shitting on LeBron for that?

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Well, if Kawhi did that, there's almost no shot AD would be winning any FInals MVPs due to the usage of Lebron and Kawhi. And given how much Lebron and Kawhi have accomplished, people would be crazy to discount those 2 if either won the Finals MVP.
In my hypothetical scenario, AD did win Finals MVP, you can't change my scenario.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29426 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Did the Westbrook/Chris Paul thread really get deleted?


A certain Pinata probably tattled
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61088 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:35 pm to
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Tyson Chandler has signed with Houston. He was signed using the full 1 year AARP exception.



Rockets still interested in Igoudala and Korver.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27299 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:36 pm to
I’d rather they try to trade for Robert Covington instead of Iguodala.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60116 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:38 pm to
It’s going to cost a whole lot more
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61088 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:39 pm to
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I’d rather they try to trade for Robert Covington instead of Iguodala.



Agreed. I thought the whole rationale for Russ's failures in OKC was their inability to surround him with shooters. Adding a guy like Igoudala isnt good.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10406 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:39 pm to
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I’d rather they try to trade for Robert Covington instead of Iguodala.


Covington will want to be locked down for longer. Iggy is a good deal for a contender. It'll probably be cheap and he'll take a short deal to chase a ring.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61088 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:40 pm to
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It’s going to cost a whole lot more



Send more picks. Resign Shumpert to match contracts.

Minnesota is in rebuilding mode anyways.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27299 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:41 pm to
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It’s going to cost a whole lot more
I know but I think he’s be a whole lot better.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59687 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:44 pm to
Yes Gersson should go ahead and send him over.
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