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re: NBA Considering Changing Draft Format

Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:27 am to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:27 am to
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This may be a dumb question but I don't follow the NBA. Why don't they have a system like the NFL where it's merit based?
NBA teams began tanking to get that first pick. No other league has had that problem. The lottery was designed to eliminate tanking, but it appears that this year teams are still doing it, so the league has to take action. Being bad at basketball on purpose is the worst thing a professional basketball league can have.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116014 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:28 am to
What an absolutely terrible idea. I'm sure the League LOVES the idea, because guess what? It keeps the teams with deep pockets in power even more.

The bad teams don't get "rewarded for being bad" and have to just stay on the treadmill forever.

Meanwhile, a team that is already great could get the 1,2,3 pick in a random year, STILL be great, and spend money on Free Agents that obviously only want to go to those situations.

And players will stay in school another year to not have to go to Charlotte or Milwaukee or Minnesota (or New Orleans, lets be honest).
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150780 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:33 am to
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I think it would just increase the gap between the haves and the have nots in the NBA. Like you said, players will wait a year to go to the team they want.

Exactly. No way the owners sign off on something that puts SO much power into the players' hands. shite, draftees could leave now instead of later in order to go someplace desirable, or they could stay another year or two...or even miss a season due to "injury" or whatever. There's any number of ways a college player could work that system, and all the NBA teams could do is sit back and wait. There's not incentive for them to offer a top three pick to enter the draft now when everyone involved knows that the team is picking at #11.
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 10:34 am
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23178 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:35 am to
this has got to be the dumbest idea ever constructed
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:40 am to
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What an absolutely terrible idea. I'm sure the League LOVES the idea, because guess what? It keeps the teams with deep pockets in power even more.
The five smallest-market teams have a better cumulative record over the past seven seasons than the five biggest-market teams do.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123647 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:40 am to
Only thing they should change is the playoff format to a 5-5-7-7

IMO
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:41 am to
I am not a fan.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9249 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:41 am to
Dont like this idea at all. Draft in the order you finsh. I could care less about the anti "tanking" crowd, in fact I dont have a problem with tanking at all. If a team isnt very good and wants the #1 pick to change the future of their franchise, they should be allowed to tank, because the reality is tanking IS a strategy. The reality is that tanking isnt about losing, its about winning, even if it means losing short term. Let them duel it out for the #1 pick. The year before we drafted Lebron, the Cavs absolutely tanked, anybody who tried hard got released. Turns out it was a great gamble that paid off with getting Lebron James. In my opinion its the great equalizer in the small market/big market debate. Small markets have to draft well, let them tank if they are willing to accept the consequences.
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 10:42 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278515 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:42 am to
I agree with you. I like the lottery a lot better. Even teams that tank arent assured the #1 pick. The Pelicans are a good example of that.

Imagine one of the top teams falling in line to nab a once in a generation player coming out in the draft. That wouldnt make the league better
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116014 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:47 am to
Tanking is a far lesser evil than not even giving bad teams a fair chance to improve through the draft.

A bad team could have their #1 pick come along in a bad draft, get Anthony Bennett, and then not get another very good pick for TEN YEARS. The team is essentially doomed.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110979 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:49 am to
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and then not get another very good pick for TEN YEARS
I'm sure it would rotate in such a way that you don't go 10 years without a top pick or 3 years in a row with top 5 picks.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:50 am to
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Tanking is a far lesser evil than not even giving bad teams a fair chance to improve through the draft.
This draft proposal actually couldn't be more fair. Whether the idea is good is debatable, but it's definitely fair.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278515 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:51 am to
the system itself is fair and even, but the outside variables make it unfair
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:52 am to
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I'm sure it would rotate in such a way that you don't go 10 years without a top pick or 3 years in a row with top 5 picks.
You'd get a top 6 pick every five years with this rotation. The article has a graph showing the rotation order.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116014 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:52 am to
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This draft proposal actually couldn't be more fair. Whether the idea is good is debatable, but it's definitely fair.



If your definition of fair is that all teams have the same picks over the course of 30 years, ok.

But guess what? Sports leagues don't work like that. They try to give the worst teams a chance to get better by giving them higher picks. In this system, it could effectively wreck a franchise with absolutely not shot of recovery.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17104 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:53 am to
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I'm sure it would rotate in such a way that you don't go 10 years without a top pick or 3 years in a row with top 5 picks.


The way it would rotate is right there in front of you.

"every team would be guaranteed one top-six pick every five seasons, and at least one top-12 pick in every four-year span"
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:55 am to
Don't like


Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:55 am to
YES PLEASE!



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every team would be guaranteed one top-six pick every five seasons, and at least one top-12 pick in every four-year span:



I like the pod idea better though
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 10:58 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:55 am to
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If your definition of fair is that all teams have the same picks over the course of 30 years, ok.
That's exactly fair.
quote:

But guess what? Sports leagues don't work like that. They try to give the worst teams a chance to get better by giving them higher picks. In this system, it could effectively wreck a franchise with absolutely not shot of recovery.
That's not unfair.
Posted by Ed Wuncler III
Member since Nov 2013
563 posts
Posted on 12/23/13 at 11:02 am to
The NBA is by far the league with the least parity. So few teams win championships now and this will make it more unfair. Small market teams rarely get high level free agents, so they get compensated with high draft picks when they suck. Imagine a year like last year where the 4/5 pick is really hard cause all of the players arent that good. Or if they make one bad pick theyre fricked. This is so unfair to small market teams its ridiculous.
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