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re: Nationals 5 vs Dodgers 6 - Final - Series tied 2-2

Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:31 pm to
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I'm guessing there is the possibility Kershaw demanded the rock and what exactly do you do when the best pitcher on the planet tells you that.


Tell him that his job is to pitch, not set the lineups.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:37 pm to
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Roberts and the Dodgers FO are clearly bright people,


honestly i was thinking opposite. Roberts may not be far removed enough from playing to make a sound decision to give him proper rest. This seems like an emotional decision on his part.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:40 pm to
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Roberts and the Dodgers FO are clearly bright people, I imagine there is a reason outside of upsetting fans, but I don't see what it is.

Most likely, they feel their bullpen is gassed and don't trust Urias to give them innings with nobody really available for long relief. Then, they will have everyone rested for game 5 and won't need much from Hill. Heck, they might even wind up starting Urias if they get there.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60270 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:42 pm to
The injuries he's had this year would be a little concerning. I would probably go with Urias and be prepared to bust out the whole staff in this one if needed, then ride Kershaw in Game 5. There is no easy answer though (obviously). I would be interested to see the list of pitchers who have started on short rest in the playoffs.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 2:00 pm to
They will not start a rookie on the road in an elimination game. They should start him at home, at least then he is a comfortable situation
Posted by BillCoby
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 2:20 pm to
I will never understand paying a guy who players once every 5 days over 30 million
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11353 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 2:27 pm to
If Kershaw makes 32 starts, he will face more batters than any hitter will have PAs.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:03 pm to
100% yes.


Have to win today. Saving players for games that may not happen is ridiculous.

quote:

Urias


They'd be lucky to get 5 innings out of the kid. Not ready for this kind of pressure.
Posted by barry
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:07 pm to
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Have to win today. Saving players for games that may not happen is ridiculous.



You also have to win tomorrow. Each game is equally important.

On full rest, its debatable. But the Kershaw you get today, won't be the same as tomorrow.

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They'd be lucky to get 5 innings out of the kid. Not ready for this kind of pressure.


Who do you think is gonna pitch in game 5 on the road??
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:11 pm to
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You also have to win tomorrow. Each game is equally important.





there is no tomorrow without today. Seriously this aint the regular season, it's win or go home. You must put your best out there today.

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Who do you think is gonna pitch in game 5 on the road??



Hill if not the kid. Dodgers bullpen is taxed already, they need 7 innings from their SP TODAY. and if you can get Kershaw and a win today the dodgers are set up better than they are today IMO.


ETA: barry i respect your baseball knowledge and opinions except on this one

I just think you aren't seeing the forest through the trees. Hoping for a good game
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 3:14 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101931 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:47 pm to
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there is no tomorrow without today.


But there is no NLCS without both.
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:13 pm to
Woah. This entire thread shows why so many people struggle with the basics of game theory.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:34 pm to
Is this the de facto game thread? Gonzalez just hit a two run dong
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145316 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:41 pm to
Thank god for this easy shut down inning
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:43 pm to
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Is this the de facto game thread?


sure.


quote:

Gonzalez just hit a two run dong



finally they need to get him going.

Kershaw had a tough first but smoothed out in the second. He looks strong IMO
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50379 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:44 pm to
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there is no tomorrow without today. Seriously this aint the regular season, it's win or go home. You must put your best out there today.


The point is to win the series, not game 4. You have to give yourself the best chance to win both games, not just game 4.

Hill is gonna be pretty useless on short rest. It's Urias and Kershaw. So you might as well
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11833 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:45 pm to
frick the MLB for screwing us on these start times the entire series.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145316 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:46 pm to
Yea they can get their pussys grabbed
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50379 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:46 pm to
Also this is a small sample size so win or lose this doesn't prove what the Dodgers did was right or wrong.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:58 pm to
Even if the Dodgers win they will lose game 5. Hill has never pitched on 3 days rest, has had blisters all year, and they will not start Urias.

Should have pitched Urias today vs Ross because they will need someone to shut down the Nats tomorrow. Max isn't going to give up 6 and would have been a great duel.
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