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re: MSB LSU fans: What’s going on at LSU?

Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:27 am to
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:27 am to
The “old coach” is the one who identified Brady and O trusted him enough to hire him.

“Bbq buddies” landed lsu brady, burrow, and a national title.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:28 am to
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The “old coach” is the one who identified Brady and O trusted him enough to hire him.

E is a good admin, film, recruiting guy. nobody doubts that part of him. he's a shite coordinator

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“Bbq buddies” landed lsu brady, burrow, and a national title.

and every other year?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:29 am to
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The “old coach” is the one who identified Brady and O trusted him enough to hire him.


Because that old coach isn't good enough to be an offensive coordinator. He recognized a good young coach, neat. He needed him.

Linehan clearly isn't an answer.

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“Bbq buddies” landed lsu brady, burrow, and a national title.




The perfect storm.

Ed O will never sniff that again, ever. I will be surprised if he ever makes the playoffs again as a HC.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:30 am to
fiesta bowl the year before, rebuilding a broken program before that. One title and one BCS In 4 seasons is more than good enough.

With no bbq buddies there are zero titles. We can agree on that. Bc there is no burrow or Brady l.
Posted by Hill Country
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:32 am to
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The mental gymnastics you people play


Oh that's fricking rich coming from you.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:32 am to
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Linehan clearly isn't an answer.


Yea bc he can’t win SEC games w true freshman Qb
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:32 am to
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rebuilding a broken program before that.

we're worse now than when he took over

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One title and one BCS

BCS doesn't mean much post-playoffs. it's the equivalent of the gator or chick Fil A bowl in the past

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With no bbq buddies there are zero titles. We can agree on that. Bc there is no burrow or Brady l.

Burrow was necessary, but that's b/c of Aranda's guy (Busch, who identified him and sold O on him), not O's guy (E)

Brady wasn't essential. any good, modern coordinator could have delivered a similar offense with Burrow at the helm

there are a lot of those guys out there. we've just been historically scared to hire them. and we didn't run it back in 2019
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:33 am to
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Yea bc he can’t win SEC games w true freshman Qb

we won every SEC game with Brennan?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:34 am to
Offense was scoring 40+ after losing their top wr weeks before game 1 and also breaking in an Inexperience QB. With no running game. Is the o line on linehan too now? My goodness J.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:36 am to
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Is the o line on linehan too now?

no it's on O

something you claimed he rebuilt, right? why is our OL so bad with O having a full cycle of recruiting? you can't blame Les anymore

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Offense was scoring 40+ after losing their top wr weeks before game 1

YOU brought up "winning"

we didn't win v. MSU or Missouri, and they're terrible
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 10:37 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:36 am to
The problem is this offense doesn't look at all the same as last year, not because of players but because of scheme. Ensminger clearly cannot run Brady's offense.

If they were running a similar offense but just didn't have the horses so it wasn't working as well, sure. But they aren't. This is a reversion to past Ensminger offenses.

If Ed can weather this storm, and Gilbert and Ojulari and guys like that don't transfer...

He HAS to let Ensminger, Linehan, and Pelini go if allowed to. He has to hire young, smart, up and coming coaches for those positions and get out of his comfort zone.

If he doesn't, he is done, he just doesn't know it yet.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:37 am to
#1 is bc we were so good last year that cushenberry left early. You don’t plan on a center leaving early when you are mapping out your needs. Bc they never leave early. Next thing you know you have to get a Harvard transfer.

Unprecented success is the reason.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:38 am to
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The problem is this offense doesn't look at all the same as last year, not because of players but because of scheme. Ensminger clearly cannot run Brady's offense.

been arguing this in the "Gilbert blocking" thread

we simply did not line him up on the sidelines at all. Moss (and CEH) were regularly lined up as our widest WR

it's a great way to simplify things for your team b/c it clearly shows man/zone. yet we didn't run it

we didn't scheme guys open this year. we just ran plays. i compared it to mike mccarthy in GB who refused to scheme guys open and just went off gut playcalling and simple routes
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:39 am to
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Offense was scoring 40+ after losing their top wr weeks before game 1 and also breaking in an Inexperience QB.

That was during the part of the schedule that was supposed to be easy for LSU. Look at what happens when they actually get tested.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:41 am to
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we were so good last year that cushenberry left early. You don’t plan on a center leaving early when you are mapping out your needs.

i don't think Cush is even the first LSU C to leave with eligibly left recently

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Unprecented success is the reason.

a. what do you mean "unprecedented"?

b. is your argument that we were so good in 2019 that it excuses our OL being shite and our team being a dumpster fire in 2020?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:42 am to
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been arguing this in the "Gilbert blocking" thread

we simply did not line him up on the sidelines at all. Moss (and CEH) were regularly lined up as our widest WR

it's a great way to simplify things for your team b/c it clearly shows man/zone. yet we didn't run it

we didn't scheme guys open this year. we just ran plays. i compared it to mike mccarthy in GB who refused to scheme guys open and just went off gut playcalling and simple routes



Correct. Ensminger just isn't suited to be a modern OC. He never was.

Brady was CLEARLY calling most of the plays last year no matter what anyone says. You could see it every time they cut to the booth. Brady will be a HC in the NFL within the next couple of years.

Hiring Ensminger as a OC was totally ridiculous and it still is. He has to retire. They have to hire someone that is smart and young.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:44 am to
No the schedule was “supposed” to be UTSA. I get a kick out of the Part of fanbase who is saying 3-7 or 4-6 or whatever and ignoring that in a regular season with 3 cream puff non conference this is Still a 9-4, 8-5 kinda season. And even better if Brennan isn’t out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:45 am to
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Brady will be a HC in the NFL within the next couple of years.

if you want to talk outliers, Brady is an insane one

he wasn't even an on-field coach in Nola in 2018 and is an NFL OC in 2020 and people are pushing him for HC jobs for 2021

his last time he was a coach before 2019 was in 2013-2014, when he was the LBs coach for William and Mary
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:46 am to
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3-7 or 4-6 or whatever and ignoring that in a regular season with 3 cream puff non conference this is Still a 9-4, 8-5

6-7 losses magically becomes 4-5

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And even better if Brennan isn’t out.

so we're beating Bama, TAMU, or Florida with Brennan?
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:46 am to
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Brady will be a HC in the NFL within the next couple of years.
he will probably be one next year
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 10:47 am
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