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re: Most Overrated Player In NBA History

Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:57 pm to
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Another double standard

I posted elite players with more titles than Jordan.

What is the double standard? The fact that you didn't realize Cousy is regarded as a top-50 player and Hav not far behind him?

Your embarrassment isn't a double standard.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:58 pm to
No I didn’t, I provided the same argument in a different sport. The fact that your response was to lie about the argument proves you don’t even believe in your own position.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:59 pm to
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Oh the team that has the most regular season wins in NBA history wasn't better?


It’s called gassing yourself(or selves) out. When you try to sprint in a marathon, you typically lose.


Like last night.

Then again maybe the nba can give 4 months of rest between the regular season and playoffs. So the phrase “regular season team” can fade away, right?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:59 pm to
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Oh the team that has the most regular season wins in NBA history wasn't better?

And you say you can't take us seriously?
73 win team was inferior so Lebron does't get credit, Kobe gets more credit for the 3 titles as Shaq's sidekick, refuses to discuss Bill Russell...

But he can't take others seriously!!!
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:59 pm to
My 2 answers are

Amare Stoudemire

Derek Fisher

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70509 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:00 pm to
You didn’t even spell his name right because you don’t know anything about him lol. You make ignorant statements then run to find single lines of support for them. It’s comical.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:00 pm to
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You know what's a true narrative, you refusing to answer my Bill Russell question because it blows up everything you argued in this thread.


It doesn’t. As I’ve stated for numerous years, Russell is top 3. Duncan is top 5. Bird is better than LeBron too.
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 3:01 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:01 pm to
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You are inferring things not implied.

What?

You said he's not as accomplished, "especially in championships" so what other way would be implied other than he's not as accomplished in facets outside of championships?

If you meant he's less accomplished ONLY in championships, you would not have said "especially in championships" because that wouldn't really make sense to your point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:01 pm to
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Kobe gets more credit for the 3 titles as Shaq's sidekick,


2002 Nets v. 2016 Warriors

GO
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:01 pm to
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It would be like saying Isaiah Thomas is better than MJ because MJ couldn't beat those Pistons teams in the late 80s. MJ was 10-12 against Detroit in the Playoffs despite the fact that MJ was the best player on the court.

But MJ is better because count the rings.

So what about Russell?

SILENCE!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:02 pm to
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You didn’t even spell his name right because you don’t know anything about him lol.

Relevant to the discussion.

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You make ignorant statements then run to find single lines of support for them. It’s comical.

So again, why isn't Cousy worthy of this discussion? He's a top-50 player of all time with more rings than Jordan.

You have run away from explaining why he was a bad person to insert into this conversation.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:02 pm to
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2002 Nets v. 2016 Warriors


The implication being that the East somehow had the second best team in the league, when they did not.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:02 pm to
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No I didn’t, I provided the same argument in a different sport.
But you didn't.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
112846 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:03 pm to
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ThanosIsADemocrat

Where do you rank Russell and who is ahead of him?
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:03 pm to
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2002 Nets v. 2016 Warriors


Say it to Kerry Kittle's face.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:04 pm to
People say it’s impossible Biden got that many votes. Just look at threads like these. It shows how pure derangement can lead to whack job thoughts and decisions

Derangement syndrome makes anything possible. TDS leads to Biden votes, LDD leads to people voting for Duncan and Kobe ahead of Lebron
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70509 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:05 pm to
A bad person? Wtf are you talking about. On top of that apply your own logic here, it excluded those players so again you use a double standard.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:05 pm to
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He lost to Duncan again, and without Ray Allen a 3rd time.

Duncan is top 5 ever and yes over LeBron James.


And what happens if Duncan doesn't spend his first seasons with The Admiral and then the entire remainder of his career with Parker and Ginobili? Duncan wasn't even the Finals MVP the years that he beat LeBron. In '07, it was Tony Parker and in '14, it was Kawhi. So take a clutch shot away from Ray Allen, but then let's take two separate Finals MVPs off of the Spurs roster and play that one out.

Duncan might be top five ever and I agree he is a bit underrated, but he is not over Lebron James. And I love Duncan. He is the exact type of guy I want an NBA star to be.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:05 pm to
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73 win team was inferior so Lebron does't get credit, Kobe gets more credit for the 3 titles as Shaq's sidekick, refuses to discuss Bill Russell... But he can't take others seriously!!!


I’m actually crediting LeBron and the Cavs. They were better both years and only lost in 15 due to injury and even then still had a 2-1 lead.

So no, you aren’t producing any serious points here.

Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
112846 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:05 pm to
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Russell is top 3
Who is ahead of him, and how can they possibly be ahead of the dude with 11 titles if titles have to matter at some point?
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Bird is better than LeBron too.


quote:

As I’ve stated for numerous years
Who do I have ranked as #6 all time?
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