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re: Modern NBA players are not the tallest historically
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:30 pm to PeteRose
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:30 pm to PeteRose
I’d love to see how Shaq would develop in today’s NBA. I think he’d be given much more leeway to shoot and dribble. Big men back then were just supposed to post up, get short range shots, and rebound. Today the more versatile the better.
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Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:43 pm to VA LSU fan
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Back then it was just isolation.
Alot of that was due to the illegal defense rules. If Rodman was on the wing you had to guard him out there. If you double teamed you had to send the double early. Led to more slow paced isolation basketball.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:44 pm to redfishfan
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Alot of that was due to the illegal defense rules. If Rodman was on the wing you had to guard him out there. If you double teamed you had to send the double early. Led to more slow paced isolation basketball.
Yes when the NBA permitted partial zones it gave a huge advantage to the defense.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:53 pm to PP7 for heisman
Remember the Shaq Stopper era? A weird time in NBA history - teams were overpaying for offensively limited tall players (Jim McIlvaine) just because they could sorta slow down Shaq.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:59 pm to POTUS2024
Well yeah Luc was better than 99.999% of the humans in his time. My whole point though is that he’s not an NBA player today if he were to come back as a 20 year old. Big slow plodding guys are getting played off the floor. Also on the other end of the spectrum, this is the first NBA season where there wasn’t a rostered player below 6’0”.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:44 pm to theducks
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this is the first NBA season where there wasn’t a rostered player below 6’0”.
Jose Alvarado is 5'11" without shoes.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:34 pm to Ghost of Colby
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Mark Eaton went from being a mechanic to the NBA because of his size
To be fair, he went from a mechanic, to community college, to UCLA before the NBA. He was also 7’4”, and well over 250 lbs
Yeah
Eaton was an outlier even among basketball players. He had four inches on seven footers. In the same way seven footers have four inches (plus wingspan) on a six foot eight forward.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:42 pm to Undertow
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love to see how Shaq would develop in today’s NBA. I think he’d be given much more leeway to shoot and dribble
Young Shaq on the Magic was a crazy athletic guy that could run the court and block everything.
But I don't think he could have developed a real outside shot. When he became more skilled it was all around the paint.
I don't think prime Shaq would have been better in today's game than he was 24 years ago.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:47 pm to brmark70816
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I could go on. But if you are 7ft tall and reasonably athletic, with a semi desire to play basketball, you have an incredibly high probability to make the NBA. Height is still the greatest determination of success in basketball.
I submit Luka Garza, though 6-11, a 2x unanimous AA, national POY—prolific scorer extraordinaire with a solid long ball and finishing moves for days and an unmatched work ethic. Guy cut weight, got in ridiculous shape, will drop 40 in a G league game and can’t stick in the NBA.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:02 pm to molsusports
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oung Shaq on the Magic was a crazy athletic guy that could run the court and block everything. But I don't think he could have developed a real outside shot. When he became more skilled it was all around the paint. I don't think prime Shaq would have been better in today's game than he was 24 years ago.
Can you imagine the perimeter defense they’d make fat Shaq play now? Young Shaq may have been decent today but his role would be reduced
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:27 am to chalmetteowl
Even fat Shaq was more mobile than Joker so I guess somebody should tell the Nuggets that his role needs to be reduced.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 7:35 am
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:02 am to chalmetteowl
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Can you imagine the perimeter defense they’d make fat Shaq play now? Young Shaq may have been decent today but his role would be reduced
Can you imagine anyone in the league trying to stop him from putting his nuts in their face as he dunks it every time he touches the ball?
Shaq had an eFG% that was 10% points higher than the league average, and he led the league in 6 seasons. His TS% was even significantly higher than league average, and that's with him being a 52% FT shooter attempting 10 FT's a game and never attempting 3's.
In a league where defense doesn't matter that much and efficiency on offense does, he'd be the same dominant force he always was. He was leading the league with a 58% eFG%, and we've got guys like Gafford and Gobert and Jarrett Allen well over 60%, hell even a rookie in Duren is over 60%. It's a lot easier to score today than it was 20 years ago.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:11 am to TeddyPadillac
Now that everyone else is shooting 3s and there’s more space Shaq would be even harder to stop. The guys who are considered elite rim protectors in todays game he’d snap in half.
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