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Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:06 pm to PeteRose
If Shaq never plays, that curve never peaks.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:46 pm to PeteRose
How were they measuring back then? Because now there’s a rule her took effect a few years back that they have to be measured by the NBA without shoes.
Players used to get away with adding an inch or two to their height. Not anymore.
Players used to get away with adding an inch or two to their height. Not anymore.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:50 pm to PrimeTime Money
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there’s a rule her took effect a few years back that they have to be measured by the NBA without shoes.
This doesn’t make sense, they don’t play without shoes
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:54 pm to PeteRose
Back then, if you were 7 feet tall you could get away with not playing defense and not really trying except in the playoffs.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:17 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:What do you mean it doesn’t make sense? No shoes puts everyone on a level playing field, not to mention shoes are not part of the body. Who measures their height with their shoes on?
This doesn’t make sense, they don’t play without shoes
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:45 pm to Madking
quote:Michael Porter Jr, Giannis, Evan Mobley.
Nobody in the NBA is 6-11 with a 40 inch vertical and can handle the ball.
Chet has a 30 inch vertical, KAT and Embiid are high 30s, Wemby mid 30s vertical.
Ayton has a 44 inch vertical.
You get my point. Big guys are not statues anymore. They can bring the ball up the floor, jump out of the gym, and pull a defense out to the perimeter with their shooting ability. If they can't do at least one of those things at a high level, they're either out of the league or out of playoff rotations - See Steven Adams.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:55 pm to PP7 for heisman
Guys like Hakeem, David Robinson, young Shaq etc.. were much more mobile than Joker or Embiid. You also had guys like Kemp, Nance and others who were 6-10 with 40 inch verticals. You guys describe the 80-90s like they’re the 50s when athletically they’re no different than today’s guys. The differences are the types of skills valued for each era. For example a Robert Horry or Cliff Robinson would be a lot more valuable today than they were then. Someone like Rasheed Wallace would be a perennial All-NBA player in today’s game.
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:57 pm to PrimeTime Money
Kevin Garnett and a lot of other 4s lied about their height so the wouldn’t have to play the 5. They were taller than listed not shorter. This happens in every era and works both ways.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:59 am to PeteRose
The 1st NCAA Tournament National Champions in basketball were nicknamed "the tall firs'...University of Oregon.
6'8" Center
2x - 6'4" forwards
A 5'11 guard
A 5'8" guard
That was considered a huge lineup in 1939.
Things change...
6'8" Center
2x - 6'4" forwards
A 5'11 guard
A 5'8" guard
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Newspaper editor L. H. Gregory called the Oregon team the "Tall Firs" due to the height of the team's players, since Oregon was taller than most other teams of the era.
That was considered a huge lineup in 1939.
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Oregon's preferred offensive game plan was to play an attacking fast break style of basketball. In response, opposing teams with shorter players often played a slower-paced offense.
Things change...
Posted on 1/31/24 at 5:04 am to Fun Bunch
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You can't just be 7 foot and unskilled and expect to last long, like you could once upon a time.
Jaxson Hayes got a 2nd contract.
Boban has been in the league a long time.
I could go on. But if you are 7ft tall and reasonably athletic, with a semi desire to play basketball, you have an incredibly high probability to make the NBA. Height is still the greatest determination of success in basketball.
If the take 6 inches from any of the great players they struggle to even make the league. Size always matters first..
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:34 am to PeteRose
Well the center position has essentially been eliminated. And with no one playing defense anymore, fast-break ball is how you win. There's more of a premium on quickness/speed than height with today's game.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:45 am to brmark70816
quote:Jaxson Hayes was 22 when he signed a 2 year, 4 million dollar contract (essentially nothing) after the pelicans declined to pick up his option
Jaxson Hayes got a 2nd contract.
He's one of the best athletes in the entire in NBA. He'll likely be out of the league in a year.
quote:Boban is 7'4, is at best the third big on a team, and hasn't played in more than 40 games in 5 years. He's also one of the best locker room guys in the NBA. If he's playing in 1980, he's breaking Eaton's block record.
Boban has been in the league a long time.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:57 am to Gifman
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And with no one playing defense anymore
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:03 am to LSU82BILL
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And he can also stand out beyond the arc and hit 3's.
The three point line changed everything.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:07 am to theducks
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If you were 7’ you could play the in the NBA despite having no other skills from the 60s up until probably the 90s.
If you see a man today who's 7' tall and is between the age of 20 and 40, there's a 1/6 chance he's currently in the NBA.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:18 am to PP7 for heisman
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Ayton has a 44 inch vertical.
Get the frick out of here with this bull shite.
Ayton has a 9'3" standing reach. He could theoritically touch the top of the backboard if he could jump that high.
I gaurantee you he can't touch the top of the backboard today. Maybe he could get close to that when he was at Arizona, but his fat arse ain't getting anywhere near that today.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:49 am to POTUS2024
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Can't remember the player, maybe Luke Longley? He said that many people said this about him and when he'd go home for the off season he'd hear it - then challenged people in the gym to play a bit. He would wreck shop on these people. Dribbling, shooting, blocking, scoring...didn't matter, he would crush them. Those guys were good players. They weren't just tall. That applied in high school, and ended in high school.
Sounds like Brian Scallabrini’s quote. “I’m closer to Lebron than you are to me”. A lot of people. Called him out. He went on camera and wrecked several people including a D1 player
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:04 pm to PP7 for heisman
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He's one of the best athletes in the entire in NBA.
He's a great athlete, for a 7 footer. He's not in the top 100 out of the league. People have this skewed view of athleticism, due to his size. It's a massive advantage.
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He's also one of the best locker room guys in the NBA. If he's
Nobody is in the league with zero utility or without some purpose. His size is an attribute and the reason he is in the league.
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If he's playing in 1980, he's breaking Eaton's block record.
I don't think so. Ralph Sampson (i was thinking Thompson for some reason) would be a unicorn today and the grind broke him down pretty quick. Hard to transfer players Era to Era and be certain how they adapt..
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This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 1:07 pm
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