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re: MLB Offseason Thread: Hosmer to the Padres, Twins get a starter

Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:37 pm to
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Hughes, never healthy but a good 3 if he is
huh????
This post was edited on 1/13/18 at 12:38 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:41 pm to
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Ervin Santana
Jose Berrios
Kyle Gibson
Adalberto Mejia
Phil Hughes/Stephen Gonsalves

Thats a descent rotation


I don't know any of those names but Ervin and Phil. I guess that's Minnesota for ya.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:47 pm to
Really Berrios was a pretty big prospect? Gibson was pretty well respected as well
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:48 pm to
Yep, never heard of either even once.

If they were NL then probably, but I couldn't tell you the last time I watched any part of a Twins game. The very rare random highlight on SC but never watch SC anymore either.
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 1:14 pm to
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I don't know any of those names but Ervin and Phil. I guess that's Minnesota for ya.


Santana-10.4 WAR in past 3 1/2 years, 3.28 ERA, 4.46 FIP last year
Berrios-23 yr old, 145 IP, 3.89 ERA/3.84 FIP, 8.59 K/9

Those two are a pretty good top of the rotation. Definitely wild card potential.

Gibson-place holder. need someone better.
Mejia-24 yr old, 98 IP,4.50 ERA/4.65 FIP, 7.81 K/9
Hughes-112 In past two years
Gonsalves-lefty, top 75 prospect

Just upgrade one of those spots, and this rotation looks pretty good. Get a Darvish at the top, and I really like this team, even though they are very young.

The organization also has Fernando Romero, who will be a top 100 prospect this year. Finally blossomed into a starter in 2017. Underrated with his stuff. Could make the leap to Minnesota in 2018.
This post was edited on 1/13/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 1:18 pm to
Hughes last had a good season in 2014, dude is 31 (or 32 now) he hasn't had an ERA under 5 in two years and hasn't been healthy either. He could be a candidate to move back to the bullpen to continue his career. He did thrive in the bullpen for the Yankees
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Hughes last had a good season in 2014, dude is 31 (or 32 now) he hasn't had an ERA under 5 in two years and hasn't been healthy either. He could be a candidate to move back to the bullpen to continue his career. He did thrive in the bullpen for the Yankees


Thats true too

1.Santana
2.Berrios
3.Free Agent
4.Mejia
5.Gibson/Gonsalves

RP.Rodney
RP.Reed
RP.Hughes
RP.Hildenberger

Thats pretty descent.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 1:33 pm to
IMO Twins won't get a major pitcher although I would love to see it....

SP- E. Santana
SP- J. Berrios
SP- J. Garcia
SP- K. Gibson
SP- A. Mejia

I'm thinking they grab Garcia, Cashner, Tillman.... They did pick up Pineda who will be ready by the All-Star break I believe.

Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
18416 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 4:48 pm to
I remember a long time ago when Hughes was supposed to be the next Clemens. He and Bailey were going to be ace starters for years to come.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:35 pm to
Cole to the Astros official, per ESPN
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
18416 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:39 pm to
Who did they give up? McCutchen next?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:40 pm to
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Tim Brown ?Verified account @TBrownYahoo 22m22 minutes ago

Hearing Pirates and Astros have a trade. Sources say Musgrove and Moran to Pitt for Gerrit Cole.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
18416 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:41 pm to
I wish Girsch signed Reed for that. Even if he gets Colome, bullpen isn’t upgraded enough.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:42 pm to
Colin Moran, Joe Musgrove, Michael feliz

Not a bad haul for the Pirates. More depth type of move instead of 1 huge prospect. Those are MLB ready guys all under 25 y/o

Good move for both
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
18416 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:44 pm to
I’m surprised Pirates couldn’t get more for him somewhere else.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:45 pm to
Pirates got raped
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:47 pm to
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I’m surprised Pirates couldn’t get more for him somewhere else.


I don't think Cole is same pitcher he was 2 years ago, his numbers increasing, and that HR per 9, from o.5 to 1.4 is significant. And now he moves to hitters parks and no more puds at 8th spot and pitcher at 9th spot.

He'll win games because of the team, but he's trending down.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
18416 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:51 pm to
He’s only 27. He had one off year. I think he’s better than what he showed last year. Very good trade for Astros.
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19474 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:52 pm to
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Cardinals – RP Luke Gregerson (two years, $11MM)


I can't believe they gave this donkey that kind of money. Thanks again St. Louis !
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56319 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:53 pm to
He’s going to be their closer.
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