Started By
Message

re: MLB has to adapt or the league is going to die

Posted on 8/22/24 at 5:57 am to
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3610 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 5:57 am to
Take away umpires and put sensors in the baseballs and bases/plate. This will solve the majority of problems.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6710 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 6:15 am to
quote:

The issue with the MLB are the diehards who are way too anal-retentive to let the game change to adapt to demand. People don't watch the MLB to see good pitching (besides the die hards). People watch the MLB to see base hits, doubles, and ultimately home runs.


What are you talking about? This isn't the fault of "diehards". The game has changed, and not for the better. The "diehards" want to see hitters go back to having an actual approach at the plate, rather than just swinging for the fences and striking out all the time. We also wanted to see the shift go away, because it was destroying so much of the excitement. The shift was not the result of new rules, but a new philosophy that was clearly detrimental to the game. Nobody wanted to see a line drive caught in right field by the second baseman. So MLB had to outlaw it. Perhaps the lone rule change I have appreciated in a long time. But some people complained... Of course. Because it wasn't "fair" that teams couldn't position their fielders however they pleased. Even though it allowed some offense to return to the game. They wanted change, but not that change, I guess.

It's the know-it-all's of the new generation who insist that their so-called "analytical" approach of hitting is the optimal way of scoring runs. They base it all on the idea that one swing scoring a run is better than two or three swings to get one. Which is true, of course... as long as you leave out the fact that fewer people reach base, the homers do less damage as a result, and that the "all or nothing" approach leads to wild inconsistency for most hitters... then you can go ahead and keep pretending that it's working.

So people talk about how brilliant all of the analytics are, but then they complain about the lack of action and excitement, and somehow blame it on the "old heads" or, as you called it, "diehard's". And when baseball tries to change something to appease a generation of complaining fans, they almost always just alienate all of the people who actually care.

Baseball isn't a game for the impatient, or short attention spanned people. Trying to make it something it's not will never fix anything. People also used to visit each other, and now all most do is text and tweet. Let's change the rules for how people live their lives, to force them to engage with each other. Sound like a good idea? You want to legislate attention spans and use of free time?

We all know that would be a bad idea, and frankly, so are all of the ideas to try to force the game of baseball to be fan friendly, to people, who's constant complaining keep contributing to said ideas that make the game worse. Either teams will adopt better philosophies, or things won't change for the better. New rules are not the answer, in my opinion.
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 6:25 am
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10721 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 6:44 am to
There are 2 things that made me stop watching baseball.

The umpires determining the outcome of games with bias calls and MLB doing nothing to shitty umps.

The insertion of politics. I stopped watching the NBA and the NFL for the same reason.
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3820 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 8:30 am to
quote:

1980 = 42 million viewers. 225 million people in the US. Nearly 25% of people watched the WS then
There were only 4 channels back then.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
2259 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:12 am to
quote:

MLB is fine. It’s nice going to games and not dealing with as many degenerate mouth breathers as you see at NFL and NBA games.


Laughs in Phillies games. Won't take my kids to Phils game in Philly again.

Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4922 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:39 am to
The old fart in me … I am in my mid 60s … wants to agree with you, but the realist in me will point out that the average age of baseball viewers on TV, and eyes on TV are much more important than asses in seats in all sports these days, is 57. Focusing on that demographic is not sustainable for the sport’s future because it will die with them. There’s nothing wrong with making changes to meet the world where it’s at in 2024. It’s just got to be the RIGHT changes.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:49 am to
Philly fans are pond scum
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43957 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:50 am to
The only thing that will save MLB is a salary cap and a salary floor like the NFL.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80534 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:16 am to
quote:

MLB has to adapt or the league is going to die



I mean, baseball is boring AF.
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19278 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:31 am to
I bailed the second they got behind this communist organization


Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
8894 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:35 am to
quote:

The issue with the MLB are the diehards who are way too anal-retentive to let the game change to adapt to demand.


Who are these diehard fans that have any sway over Rob Manfred?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297285 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:36 am to
Most of the country had 3-4 tv stations to choose from in 1980.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17631 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:42 am to
quote:

1980 = 42 million viewers


quote:

2023 = 9 million viewers



1980: 5 channels to watch on your TV

2023: literally a BILLION options to watch on your TV
Posted by Rabbs and QStick
Texas
Member since Apr 2012
3011 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:04 am to
Obviously the ratings were down because everyone hates the Rangers. They're shite franchise.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Most of the country had 3-4 tv stations to choose from in 1980.


We had at least 10 where I grew up.
Which was tiny town BFE Hicksville with -1000 city population at the time.
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 3:51 pm to
This is inaccurate.

Baseball has 20-25% the viewings of then.

NBA finals are the same as 1980

Super Bowl is nearly 300% since 1980.

It is 100% the game has just gotten flat out boring. There isn't a way you could deny that.
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 3:53 pm to
Then why has the Super Bowl increased to almost 300% the amount of watchers as 1980 or the NBA finals bascially the same today as then.

Yet MLB is 20-25% the numbers as then. It's just gotten boring. There is no denying that. Very few want to watch good pitching. People want hitting.
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 3:55 pm to
Not sure if you're referring to my post but I squared this one up and sent it 450 dead center.

Baseball has 20-25% the viewings of then.

NBA finals are the same as 1980

Super Bowl is nearly 300% since 1980.

The game needs to change for more hitting. That is what drives numbers and thereby keeps the sport alive.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63034 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Baseball has 20-25% the viewings of then. NBA finals are the same as 1980 Super Bowl is nearly 300% since 1980.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
7168 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

It’s just a totally different game now. The pitch clock helped, but launch angle and analytics killed the sport. There are too few balls in play. Too little action. Too many strikeouts. Very little strategy anymore. No more bunts, hit and runs, double switches. I still watch the postseason, but it’s a just a very different game than the one most of us grew up with

This is where I'm at too. It's only a matter of time when the Manfred Rule costs a team a postseason series.
first pageprev pagePage 7 of 9Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram