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re: Michael Jordan’s 1988 DPOY might have been fraudulent
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:22 pm to Dairy Sanders
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:22 pm to Dairy Sanders
quote:
I swear half of y’all need helmets on your heads just to tie your shoes.
The privilege/catering comes into play for MJ when Stern labeled his departure as a 'retirement' and not a suspension
I bet you put your helmet on backwards
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:26 pm to Blitzed
quote:No but this was pretty cool in game 7 to be the first player ever to come back from 3-1 in the nba finals
Y’all remember when Lebron stole the ball from Malone and then went down the court and hit the game winner for the ring during game 6 of the finals? I rememb…Oh wait….
Mj was awesome. Lebron is awesome. I truly don’t understand the difficulty to say both
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:35 pm to lsupride87
MJ was just overall better.. Bron is great.. I have magic ahead
Of Bron….
Of Bron….
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:40 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
there is no point in suspending someone and not telling anyone.
if he’s so important you have some conspiracy to hide his suspension, he’s important enough to not suspend.
He also missed 157 games. Weird suspension.
you could at it’s all of 1 season and 65 games of the next but it’s just a weird number.
if he’s so important you have some conspiracy to hide his suspension, he’s important enough to not suspend.
He also missed 157 games. Weird suspension.
you could at it’s all of 1 season and 65 games of the next but it’s just a weird number.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:57 pm to Dairy Sanders
quote:
Not when he has to spend 40 minutes a night guarding someone on the other end of the court one on one as well
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:02 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
quote:
The privilege/catering comes into play for MJ when Stern labeled his departure as a 'retirement' and not a suspension
If Jordan was “privileged” he never would have been “suspended” in the first place.
He left because he wanted to play baseball. Not sure why that is so hard for some of y’all to accept.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:05 pm to dukke v
quote:
MJ was just overall better.. Bron is great.. I have magic ahead Of Bron….
MJ
Bird
Magic
Kareem
Wilt
Duncan
Shaq
Hakeem
Dr J
Are all clearly better than him. Probably a few more but I don’t feel like dealing with crawfishing LeTards tonight.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:07 pm to ReauxlTide222
Only thing laughable is LeBald’s defense:
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:08 pm to Dairy Sanders
Ok. I’d put Kobe over the doctor…
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:13 pm to Dairy Sanders
I’m and MJ guy, but I dont think Lebron is #2
1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Kobe
6. Shaq
7. Dr J.
8. Bird
9. Magic
10. Duncan
1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Kobe
6. Shaq
7. Dr J.
8. Bird
9. Magic
10. Duncan
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:44 pm to SammyTiger
Jordan and Kareem have the best resume's by far.
There really should be more people that argue for Kareem 3 chips with 3 final four MVP's in college plus 6 chips with 6 MVP's in the NBA is just insane.
There really should be more people that argue for Kareem 3 chips with 3 final four MVP's in college plus 6 chips with 6 MVP's in the NBA is just insane.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:50 pm to Bench McElroy
Would have loved to see Jordan school Lebron James. No contest.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:54 pm to Peter167
quote:Kareem’s best argument had been the cumulative impact over his long career, whereas Jordan’s was his peak, and LeBron had the 2nd highest peak.
Jordan and Kareem have the best resume's by far.
There really should be more people that argue for Kareem 3 chips with 3 final four MVP's in college plus 6 chips with 6 MVP's in the NBA is just insane.
But now LeBron has surpassed Kareem on the cumulative stat, so he’s a distant, albeit solid, 3rd.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:06 pm to buckeye_vol
Magic did more for the game than Bron ever thought of.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:39 pm to buckeye_vol
the Advanced stats love Kareem (and centers in general)
I look at 3 things.
1. Stats- career averages, Peak averages, seasons leading in a major category
2. Accolades- MVPs, FMVPs, All-NBA, DPOY, All-Def
3. Championships
I look at 3 things.
1. Stats- career averages, Peak averages, seasons leading in a major category
2. Accolades- MVPs, FMVPs, All-NBA, DPOY, All-Def
3. Championships
Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:53 pm to Bench McElroy
Lmao, modernity is pathetic on every level.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:58 pm to Dairy Sanders
quote:Michael Jordan was not guarding the best player on the opposing team (who were for the most part less talented than today's players) 40 minutes a night. He had two of the best defensive players of all time on his team who would help with that.
Not when he has to spend 40 minutes a night guarding someone on the other end of the court one on one as well.
quote:His colleagues routinely joked that you couldn't get close to Mike or it was a foul. He got more calls than any player in his era.
Not when they don’t call ticky tacky light contact as fouls.
quote:Come on lol Jordan carries rival today's hesitation carries.
Not when you actually had to dribble and couldn’t carry 3-4 steps.
quote:See No. 2.
Not when you were allowed to hand check ball handlers.
quote:What does this even mean.
LeBron is by far the most privileged, spoiled, and catered to athlete in North American sports history and there is no one that is a remotely close second.
I detest Lebron James. The level of which some of you go to discredit him baffles me. The NBA literally encouraged teams/scorekeepers to pad Michael Jordan (and other stars of that era) stats to paint a better picture of who they were as players. A journalist demonstrates that favoritism and you people just resort to "Oh yeah!! well Lebron is a pussy and the NBA is soft!" It's so strange.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:01 am to PP7 for heisman
Everything in your post is false and you made most of it up out of thin air or took it from some other moron who made it up.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:07 am to Dairy Sanders
quote:in 1988 the average offensive line was:
What about their heights? How are their bench press numbers? (I already know the answer, you won’t like it).
OT 77.4 inches, 285.9 lbs
OG 75.6 inches, 276.2 lbs
OC 75.3 inches, 275.1 lbs
In 2023, it was:
OT 78.1 inches, 315.6 lbs
OG 76.1 inches, 312.4 lbs
OC 75.5 inches, 304.1 lbs
Athletes today are bigger, stronger, faster, and quicker than ever before.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 12:17 am
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:15 am to Madking
quote:
Everything in your post is false and you made most of it up out of thin air or took it from some other moron who made it up.
Let's go line by line.
quote:What about this is false? I won't even address the Rodman/Pippen stuff, but when the broadcast crew can't fathom this move, you can't tell me the talent was on par with the 2024 NBA.
Michael Jordan was not guarding the best player on the opposing team (who were for the most part less talented than today's players) 40 minutes a night. He had two of the best defensive players of all time on his team who would help with that.
quote:
His colleagues routinely joked that you couldn't get close to Mike or it was a foul. He got more calls than any player in his era.
LINK Jordan has the 18th most FTA per game in NBA history, and the only player in his era that had more was Karl Malone. So I'll retract on a technicality, no other guard got more calls than Jordan during his time in the NBA.
Next, Are you actually going to sit here and tell me that Michael Jordan didn't carry the shite out of the ball
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 12:19 am
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