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re: Michael Jordan’s 1988 DPOY might have been fraudulent

Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:22 pm to
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I swear half of y’all need helmets on your heads just to tie your shoes.

The privilege/catering comes into play for MJ when Stern labeled his departure as a 'retirement' and not a suspension

I bet you put your helmet on backwards
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 8:22 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:26 pm to
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Y’all remember when Lebron stole the ball from Malone and then went down the court and hit the game winner for the ring during game 6 of the finals? I rememb…Oh wait….
No but this was pretty cool in game 7 to be the first player ever to come back from 3-1 in the nba finals



Mj was awesome. Lebron is awesome. I truly don’t understand the difficulty to say both
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:35 pm to
MJ was just overall better.. Bron is great.. I have magic ahead
Of Bron….
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79431 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:40 pm to
there is no point in suspending someone and not telling anyone.

if he’s so important you have some conspiracy to hide his suspension, he’s important enough to not suspend.

He also missed 157 games. Weird suspension.

you could at it’s all of 1 season and 65 games of the next but it’s just a weird number.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:57 pm to
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Not when he has to spend 40 minutes a night guarding someone on the other end of the court one on one as well
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:02 pm to
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The privilege/catering comes into play for MJ when Stern labeled his departure as a 'retirement' and not a suspension


If Jordan was “privileged” he never would have been “suspended” in the first place.

He left because he wanted to play baseball. Not sure why that is so hard for some of y’all to accept.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:05 pm to
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MJ was just overall better.. Bron is great.. I have magic ahead Of Bron….


MJ
Bird
Magic
Kareem
Wilt
Duncan
Shaq
Hakeem
Dr J

Are all clearly better than him. Probably a few more but I don’t feel like dealing with crawfishing LeTards tonight.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:07 pm to
Only thing laughable is LeBald’s defense:

This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 9:08 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:08 pm to
Ok. I’d put Kobe over the doctor…
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79431 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:13 pm to
I’m and MJ guy, but I dont think Lebron is #2

1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Kareem
4. Wilt
5. Kobe
6. Shaq
7. Dr J.
8. Bird
9. Magic
10. Duncan

Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6327 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:44 pm to
Jordan and Kareem have the best resume's by far.

There really should be more people that argue for Kareem 3 chips with 3 final four MVP's in college plus 6 chips with 6 MVP's in the NBA is just insane.
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4255 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:50 pm to
Would have loved to see Jordan school Lebron James. No contest.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:54 pm to
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Jordan and Kareem have the best resume's by far.

There really should be more people that argue for Kareem 3 chips with 3 final four MVP's in college plus 6 chips with 6 MVP's in the NBA is just insane.
Kareem’s best argument had been the cumulative impact over his long career, whereas Jordan’s was his peak, and LeBron had the 2nd highest peak.

But now LeBron has surpassed Kareem on the cumulative stat, so he’s a distant, albeit solid, 3rd.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:06 pm to
Magic did more for the game than Bron ever thought of.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79431 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:39 pm to
the Advanced stats love Kareem (and centers in general)

I look at 3 things.

1. Stats- career averages, Peak averages, seasons leading in a major category
2. Accolades- MVPs, FMVPs, All-NBA, DPOY, All-Def
3. Championships
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70714 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:53 pm to
Lmao, modernity is pathetic on every level.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10437 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:58 pm to
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Not when he has to spend 40 minutes a night guarding someone on the other end of the court one on one as well.
Michael Jordan was not guarding the best player on the opposing team (who were for the most part less talented than today's players) 40 minutes a night. He had two of the best defensive players of all time on his team who would help with that.
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Not when they don’t call ticky tacky light contact as fouls.
His colleagues routinely joked that you couldn't get close to Mike or it was a foul. He got more calls than any player in his era.
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Not when you actually had to dribble and couldn’t carry 3-4 steps.
Come on lol Jordan carries rival today's hesitation carries.
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Not when you were allowed to hand check ball handlers.
See No. 2.
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LeBron is by far the most privileged, spoiled, and catered to athlete in North American sports history and there is no one that is a remotely close second.
What does this even mean.

I detest Lebron James. The level of which some of you go to discredit him baffles me. The NBA literally encouraged teams/scorekeepers to pad Michael Jordan (and other stars of that era) stats to paint a better picture of who they were as players. A journalist demonstrates that favoritism and you people just resort to "Oh yeah!! well Lebron is a pussy and the NBA is soft!" It's so strange.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70714 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:01 am to
Everything in your post is false and you made most of it up out of thin air or took it from some other moron who made it up.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10437 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:07 am to
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What about their heights? How are their bench press numbers? (I already know the answer, you won’t like it).
in 1988 the average offensive line was:

OT 77.4 inches, 285.9 lbs
OG 75.6 inches, 276.2 lbs
OC 75.3 inches, 275.1 lbs

In 2023, it was:

OT 78.1 inches, 315.6 lbs
OG 76.1 inches, 312.4 lbs
OC 75.5 inches, 304.1 lbs

Athletes today are bigger, stronger, faster, and quicker than ever before.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 12:17 am
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10437 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:15 am to
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Everything in your post is false and you made most of it up out of thin air or took it from some other moron who made it up.


Let's go line by line.

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Michael Jordan was not guarding the best player on the opposing team (who were for the most part less talented than today's players) 40 minutes a night. He had two of the best defensive players of all time on his team who would help with that.

What about this is false? I won't even address the Rodman/Pippen stuff, but when the broadcast crew can't fathom this move, you can't tell me the talent was on par with the 2024 NBA.

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His colleagues routinely joked that you couldn't get close to Mike or it was a foul. He got more calls than any player in his era.


LINK Jordan has the 18th most FTA per game in NBA history, and the only player in his era that had more was Karl Malone. So I'll retract on a technicality, no other guard got more calls than Jordan during his time in the NBA.

Next, Are you actually going to sit here and tell me that Michael Jordan didn't carry the shite out of the ball When your hands are that big, it's human nature to carry the ball, there is no shame.

This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 12:19 am
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