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re: Men’s basketball portal opened yesterday… 14% of all eligible Div 1 players entered

Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:28 am to
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
31958 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:28 am to
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People need to stop using "coaches can do it" as part of their justification on why this is okay. It's lazy and intellectually dishonest.
But Jay Bilas does it, and he's real smart. He went to Duke, and is a lawyer.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 9:31 am
Posted by generalgator87
Member since Nov 2022
491 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:28 am to
It happened during bowl season too. It's fricking stupid.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47512 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:30 am to
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other news, I didn’t see many threads about all those coaches not fulfilling their contracts and leaving their players for a raise. Hmmmmm


So we’re all good with players getting fired if they underperform now too, right?

Players can leave with zero consequence, coaches cannot. A buyout is owed. So, going by your logic, players can be “fired” with zero consequence as well.

Seems reasonable.

This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 9:33 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30943 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:32 am to
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So we’re all good with players getting fired if they underperform now too, right?


Considering that’s happened for decades, sure
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
44658 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:34 am to
Plenty of 4 schools in 4 years players. How do their credits transfer? Can we end the charade of academics?
Posted by GeauxAI
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:55 am to
No longer student-athletes !!!
The “athletes” part of this term comprises 98% of this farce.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20110 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:56 am to
Portal + NIL has destroyed March Madness
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:01 am to
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No longer student-athletes !!!


As opposed to the like 20% of students that start at a college that never finish?
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
6762 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:01 am to
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No longer student-athletes !!!
The “athletes” part of this term comprises 98% of this farce.
So nothing has changed.

Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23477 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:04 am to
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So we’re all good with players getting fired if they underperform now too, right?

Has been going on for decades. Scholarships weren’t 4 year contracts. Renewed each year. At times They weren’t renewed just due to academics or behavioral issues. Simply you didn’t perform or develop on the court as expected. They would not renew your scholarship and bring someone else in. Low level DI players (area I am familiar with) would move down to NAIA or other low levels. Sucks for players but on the flip side coaches are trying to keep their jobs.
At least that’s how it was when I was involved with it over 20 years ago
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 10:16 am
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:04 am to
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Portal + NIL has destroyed March Madness


I think LSU sucking shite for the past few years has led to the prevalence of this opinion on here.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12680 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:07 am to
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They still shill for “scholarships are compensation” which is insane.


I’m so fricking sick of this narrative.

The narrative that athletes went without during college is complete 100% horse shite.

They received stipends, got the best nutrition, free clothes, shoes, etc. on top of free fricking tuition, room and board, books, etc.

The notion that they were poor, put upon college students is bullshite. They lived like kings and queens compared to their peers before all this NIL bullshite and transfer portal nonsense came about.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23984 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:08 am to
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Guys that don’t play want to find somewhere to play. Shocking development.

And guys who weren't highly recruited out of high school became breakout stars at mid-majors want to jump ship to a P4. NIL combined with unlimited transfers is terrible if you liked seeing mid-majors with a roster of quality upper classmen upsetting the blue bloods whose best players are often one and dones.

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In other news, I didn’t see many threads about all those coaches not fulfilling their contracts and leaving their players for a raise. Hmmmmm
Those contracts have buyout clauses in them. If a coach leaves for another job, the new school hiring him has to pony up the money to buyout the remainer of his contract. Unless player scholarships start having buyout clauses where the new school owes money to the old school for a transferring player, then you're comparing apples to oranges.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53396 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:13 am to
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Portal + NIL has destroyed March Madness


If you like a lot of low seed upsets, then I can see this point. Hard to build an experienced midmajor teams with your best players transfer every year.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 10:14 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30943 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:14 am to
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The narrative that athletes went without during college is complete 100% horse shite.


No one said that

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got the best nutrition


Bruh, LSU players were eating the The Five until like 2018 when the athlete nutrition center was built

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The notion that they were poor, put upon college students is bullshite


Again, no one said that
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51874 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:27 am to
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And guys who weren't highly recruited out of high school became breakout stars at mid-majors want to jump ship to a P4. NIL combined with unlimited transfers is terrible if you liked seeing mid-majors with a roster of quality upper classmen upsetting the blue bloods whose best players are often one and dones.


There’s going to be a lot fewer good players stuck on crap teams that won’t get a chance to play in the tournament…
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
10840 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:38 am to
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Bruh, LSU players were eating the The Five until like 2018 when the athlete nutrition center was built

There were no dieticians or nutritionists who worked with them and provided supplements and additional meals outside of that? If so then LSU was behind a lot of G5/FCS/D2 schools when it came to this.
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5392 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:39 am to
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Just reinstate the old transfer rules. With one minor change.

First transfer, sit a year without losing eligibility.

Second transfer, loss of a year of eligibility, but able to play immediately.

Zero transfer waivers.

Grad transfer, immediately eligible.


We can throw all this talk about adjusting transfer portal rules out the window. The NCAA already settled an anti-trust lawsuit for $2.8 billion and one of the stipulations is that they would no longer regulate the transfer portal, so they cannot do this.

Contracts are the only real way out at this point, barring the settlement getting thrown out.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 10:47 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88712 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:50 am to
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14% of all eligible Div 1 players entered

More than 700 players hit the portal on opening day

Last year 291 players entered on Day 1


amateur student athletics everyone! Everything is great, this is exactly how things should be!
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
41672 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:54 am to
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You commit to a school, not a coach.

When was the last time you saw a commitment video where the player committed to a coach?


I think this was the case heavily before the 2000's. It is still the case, but it's very rare.

Prior to NIL, a kid's choice of where to go was almost solely based on who the coach was.

Now with NIL, it's Money first, Coach, then school. And since Money is involved, I don't even know if the school matters as much anymore.
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