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re: Maybe I’m getting old but with NIL and the money being demanded by players its no longer

Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:06 pm to
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Very relevant You can’t demand money if the team isn’t making money


What does your university’s athletic department turning a profit have to do with you being able to sign a shoe deal or do a commercial?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21507 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:09 pm to
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What does gambling have to do with NIL?


They are both very new variables in the landscape of college football.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59932 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:10 pm to
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Just wait until the players stop having to go to school there and they no longer caps on how much eligibility you have so there are 34 year old men playing "college ball"


Guarantee that’s what the private equity pukes would push if schools are dumb enough to buy their snake oil.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30409 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:11 pm to
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They are both very new variables in the landscape of college football.


Both have been happening for decades
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21507 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:28 pm to
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Both have been happening for decades


Ok. I think it may be happening more now since it’s legal and permissible now. And I think the gambling interest is probably propping up general interest.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
3547 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:56 pm to
Yep.

It is now just a bunch of guns for hire with no allegiance to the school or real interest in an education.
The transfer portal and NIL have ended the college football that anyone over 30 grew up with.
It has become nothing more than a semi-pro league with everyone being a free agent every damn season.
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:42 pm to
You can already see consistency has declined for most teams.

Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:01 pm to
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I don't have a problem with NIL and players getting their share for the revenue they are generating in collegiate athletics but only for the sports that bring in that revenue and it should be allocated accordingly

The one thing that has to change is the portal and you have to get some kind of commitment for the $ they are getting, it can't be for only one year at a time

This is not even a sustainable professional model

This is where I am. I wrote a college paper 20+ years ago about paying athletes and tried looking at both sides of the equation, but i was in favor of paying them. I did not, in any way, see all the different ways this could go wrong. I'm still for NIL, but not for it to be the Wild West.

That aside, it's the transfer portal nonsense that had me barely watch CFB this year. And then reading on here all the BS with recruitment and who's transferring, it's old. There has to be a way of not allowing it every year or you have to sit. The pros have to play under contract and can't leave every year and they can't just go to where they want. I get going to a school is different and you shouldn't be blocked from that, but you can't play for that first year then. Something.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:04 pm to
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You can already see consistency has declined for most teams.


It’s one season
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38080 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:42 pm to
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Maybe I’m getting old but


People move on.....There's no gravitas in the sport anymore.

It's just spoiled kids and theater.

No different than a B-movie (which is often more enjoyable to spend your time).
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
6193 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:22 am to
It’s not a secret that teams with so many transfers and freshman, teams aren’t gonna be as consistent as a whole with the way things are going though.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25313 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:42 am to
I hate what college football and college sports has become. My interest has dwindled.
Posted by GVT
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2004
986 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:35 am to
Do these kids even attend regular classes
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5680 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:02 am to
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If you don’t like it then stop following the sport. You will easily be replaced by fanbases of other schools who are growing because now they can win. The ones whining the most are the same fans of programs who bought players for decades and enjoyed the advantage to double digit wins. Now, that players aren’t beholden to stupid transfer rules and can get paid elsewhere suddenly the sport is dying?

He is essentially telling how he is slowly stopping following the sport and how that is sad to him. Why do you feel the need to berate?
He’s not wrong. You just don’t want to see it. People aren’t against a kid getting paid. Or being able to transfer. They just know that the way it is, is not enjoyable. And not sustainable. What made CF wasn’t the football being played on the field. It was the pageantry unavailable in pro sports combined with the connection to the school. It was cool that a player went to a class just like I did. All of that is going away and you’ll be left with semipro players you aren’t connected to the school playing not as good football as the nfl. It isn’t like that yet but we are heading there with the quickness. And it is something to lament. The old way, even with its problems is better than what we have now. I’m sorry you don’t understand this, but I’m at an age and place in my professional career where I am one of the people that LSU needs to be recruiting to pay monthly into the NIL’s and I have no interest in doing any of that. It’s has essentially become a one year bribe.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 7:10 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59516 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:05 am to
Don’t think anyone would have a problem with NIL if it followed the rules but it doesn’t and people don’t want another pro league pretending to be CFB without any rules. It’s disorganized, chaotic stupidity and it’s watered down an already lesser product,
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 7:06 am
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37604 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:08 am to
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Don’t think anyone would have a problem with NIL if it followed the rules


The problem is that there are no rules. Professional athletes are held to a higher standard in regards to contracts than 18 year olds are. Combining NIL with an unlimited transfer portal is creating this mess.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59516 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:12 am to
Well NIL was supposed to be compensation for likeness usage not pay for play but that has never been adhered to and you’re right about the portal as well. It’s almost as if the game is being destabilized on purpose which I think is the case.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
4485 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:38 am to
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Will I always watch the games, sure


I cut way back after 2019, now I barely even watch LSU, and I don’t miss it at all. Maybe y’all are more diehard than I ever was.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30409 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:49 am to
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Don’t think anyone would have a problem with NIL


A bunch of old frickers on this site would still have a problem with it. Look at their idiots posts in this thread. The rest of your post is absolutely spot on.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38623 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:52 am to
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The one thing that has to change is the portal and you have to get some kind of commitment for the $ they are getting, it can't be for only one year at a time




This is really funny because the schools love that their scholarship commitments are for only one year at a time.
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