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re: Manti Teo Is The Most Decorated College Player of All Time.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:09 pm to TheSexecutioner
Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:09 pm to TheSexecutioner
And I want to check if the girl was even really his girlfriend or if that was just a manufactured part of the hype. This is the school that asked Joe Theismann (was pronounced Theesman) to change his last name to sound like Heisman after all.
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:11 pm to TheSexecutioner
Because of Te'o's hype, Jones is, in fact, being extremely overrated on this site, to try to put him above Te'o. He is a great pass rusher. I would take Te'o in every other aspect of the game, including coverage, block shedding, tackling, play recognition, and leadership. Regardless, as has been mentioned about 1,000 times, the two play different positions. Very hard to compare.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:11 pm to yankeelover
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And I want to check if the girl was even really his girlfriend or if that was just a manufactured part of the hype. This is the school that asked Joe Theismann (was pronounced Theesman) to change his last name to sound like Heisman after all.
You seriously need to shut the frick up.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:14 pm to yankeelover
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This is the school that asked Joe Theismann (was pronounced Theesman) to change his last name to sound like Heisman after all.
1) The fact that you seriously think ND would do something like lie about a girl who died for some hype for one of their players (and that it wouldn't come out, Te'o would agree to it, and the girl's family wouldn't have a problem with it) is pretty disturbing.
2) Theismann thing was not a ND effort, it was his dorm, and he loved it and chose to stick with it, so don't really understand the problem.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:14 pm to yankeelover
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And I want to check if the girl was even really his girlfriend or if that was just a manufactured part of the hype. This is the school that asked Joe Theismann (was pronounced Theesman) to change his last name to sound like Heisman after all.
You are truly pathetic. What if instead of making yourself look like an a-hole, you did a little research yourself?
Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:18 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Because of Te'o's hype, Jones is, in fact, being extremely overrated on this site, to try to put him above Te'o.
Exactly. I have reasonable friends who say that Te'o is definitely the best linebacker, but that it would be ridiculous for him to win the Heisman. I think he should win it but it wouldn't be some travesty if he didn't. Both are valid opinions that don't take any dishonesty or bias.
This board is just absurd. I'm not sure its ever seen such dishonest and ill-informed analysis of player's abilities than this topic.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:22 pm to rawDAWG333
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Jarvis Jones
77 Total (47 solo) 22.5 TFL 12.5 Sacks 1 INT 7FF
Didnt even suit up for two games
Should also be noted that he suited up for the SEC title game, but was manhandled.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:33 pm to yankeelover
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And I want to check if the girl was even really his girlfriend or if that was just a manufactured part of the hype. This is the school that asked Joe Theismann (was pronounced Theesman) to change his last name to sound like Heisman after all.
u w0t m8
Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:44 pm to TheSexecutioner
and there are other reasonable people that don't think te'o is the best LB in football, much less most outstanding player in CFB
Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:58 pm to Louie T
Certainly, but they are probably biased and/or ill-informed.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 6:29 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Exactly. I have reasonable friends who say that Te'o is definitely the best linebacker, but that it would be ridiculous for him to win the Heisman. I think he should win it but it wouldn't be some travesty if he didn't. Both are valid opinions that don't take any dishonesty or bias.
This board is just absurd. I'm not sure its ever seen such dishonest and ill-informed analysis of player's abilities than this topic.
If Derrick Thomas's 1988 season was only good enough for 10th place in the Heisman voting then Manti Teo shouldn't even be invited to New York. I agree with him winning the Lombardi but it's clear the Notre Dame heisman hype machine is in full gear and working its magic this year. Apparently Manti's 7 INTs trumps DT's 27 sacks, 39 tackles for loss, 2 forced fumbles, and 2 blocked punts as long as you play for Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 6:35 pm to Govt Tide
Te'o would be just another player if he played in the sec. The fact that he is going to be in new york and has a chance to win the heisman is a JOKE!
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 6:40 pm to rawDAWG333
True. Think of the absolute studs that played in the SEC alone that had amazing years where they didn't win the Heisman. Hershel's freshmen year, Peyton Manning's senior year, Derrick Thomas 1988, Emmitt Smith at Florida 1988. Darren McFadden at Arkansas, and on and on.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:14 pm to Govt Tide
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If Derrick Thomas's 1988 season was only good enough for 10th place in the Heisman voting then Manti Teo shouldn't even be invited to New York. I agree with him winning the Lombardi but it's clear the Notre Dame heisman hype machine is in full gear and working its magic this year. Apparently Manti's 7 INTs trumps DT's 27 sacks, 39 tackles for loss, 2 forced fumbles, and 2 blocked punts as long as you play for Notre Dame.
I never said Derrick Thomas getting 10th place was right. Those stats are absolutely absurd. I can't even imagine how they justified voting him that low. But yeh, the hype machine that had Notre Dame unranked to start the season must really be working. I guess it shut down this past offseason off for maintenance.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:17 pm to Govt Tide
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True. Think of the absolute studs that played in the SEC alone that had amazing years where they didn't win the Heisman. Hershel's freshmen year, Peyton Manning's senior year, Derrick Thomas 1988, Emmitt Smith at Florida 1988. Darren McFadden at Arkansas, and on and on.
Yep, Emmitt Smith was definitely better than Barrey Sanders that year
There are plenty of other examples outside of the SEC.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:24 pm to TheSexecutioner
MINTER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Manti. FACT.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:21 pm to dukke v
Teo is benniffiting from an absolutely shitty field this year in most awards.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:29 pm to rocket31
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Manti Teo Is The Most Decorated College Player of All Time.
There was once a guy named Tim Tebow...
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:36 pm to reb13
This Tao hype is going to force me to pull for Bama
frick
Btw: jones will be drafted ahead of MT
frick
Btw: jones will be drafted ahead of MT
Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:06 pm to Purple Spoon
There are trophy makers looking for sponsors just looking to find a way to give Te'o a trophy.
And Tim Brown was an awful Heisman winner - and I met him and worshipped him that year. He had 3 TDs and played for a QB that did not throw.
That year - they invented the specialist position for him because the Heisman winner had to be a first team AA (since changed b/c QBs were 2nd team AAs and won Heisman)
And Tim Brown was an awful Heisman winner - and I met him and worshipped him that year. He had 3 TDs and played for a QB that did not throw.
That year - they invented the specialist position for him because the Heisman winner had to be a first team AA (since changed b/c QBs were 2nd team AAs and won Heisman)
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