re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense

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Dude we all know what you are doing. You are actually a good poster

You thought total defense meant something it didn't

When you were proven incorrect, you are now posting nonsense to try and act like you are trolling the whole time. It's a bad look korin

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Ok, Korin. Answer this.

Defense A:
Allows 301.5 yards per game (5.1 yards per play)
Allows 20.5 points per game
Offenses convert 38% on 3rd down
Sacked opposing QB 31 times
Forced 17 turnovers (11 INTs, 6 fumbles)

Defense B:
Allows 326.4 yards per game (5.2 yards per play)
Allows 15.6 points per game
Offenses convert 37% on 3rd down
Sacked opposing QBs 34 times
Forced 23 Turnovers (13 INTs, 10 Fumbles)

Defense C:
Allows 316.1 yards per game (4.7 yards per play)
Allows 18.6 points per game
Offenses convert 36% on 3rd down
Sacked opposing QB 42 times
Forced 27 turnovers (14 INTs, 13 Fumbles)

Which one is the best defense?

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It's a combination of all of them. Saying that total defense is "useless" is just plain ignorant.

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Youre asserting that other QBs would be as good as Brady if they had the defenses he did

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Your own charts kinda defeats your assertion

2013 - Saints best defense ever under Brees (L in division. Also, lost 4 of last 7 games)

'05, '07, '12 - Manning had his best defenses ever (L in division x2, L wild card)

2006 - Brady had one of his best defenses ever, and lost to the Colts (L conf champ to defense ranked #23)

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He's a Manning fan, one of the last idiots that think Peyton is better than the GOAT.

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I don't need to look at numbers when I have eyes that can watch these guys play. Having watched all four of them play, Tom Brady is still tGOAT.

People need to remember he's only really been a gunslinger for 10 seasons now. His first few years in the league he was a game manager, honing his skills, and developing into an elite quarterback. Then he got Randy Moss and his numbers exploded and have had very little respite ever since.

2001: 2,843 passing yards
2002: 3,764 passing yards
2003: 3,620 passing yards
2004: 3,692 passing yards
2005: 4,110 passing yards
2006: 3,529 passing yards
2007: 4,806 passing yards
2009: 4,398 passing yards
2010: 3,900 passing yards
2011: 5,235 passing yards
2012: 4,827 passing yards
2013: 4,343 passing yards
2014: 4,109 passing yards
2015: 4,770 passing yards
2016: 3,554 passing yards

(He would have gone over 4,000 yards passing again in 2016 if not for his 4-game suspension.)

There is a very clear demarkation here. The career of Tom Brady BM (Before Moss) and the career of Tom Brady AM (After Moss). Before Randy Moss his numbers were solid but not eye-popping. But in 2007, they switched from a balanced rushing attack to more of a pro style spread attack and Brady's numbers started going through the roof. And he has sustained that excellence pretty much ever since.

Bottom line, Brady blossomed late whereas Peyton Manning was given the reigns to the offense almost from day one, hence why his numbers over his career are better. And that makes sense seeing as Manning went #1 in the draft while Brady went #199. But if Brady continues to sustain he might just catch up to and surpass Manning's career totals.

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I don't need to look at numbers when I have eyes that can watch these guys play. Having watched all four of them play, Tom Brady is still tGOAT.

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HOnest question, tell me what you see with your eyes that tells you that despite Rodgers playing the QB position clearly better than Brady in the regular season and playoffs.

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