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re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense

Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

I'm down voting you?

1. Good one, you're funny.

2. Who gives a frick?

3. Trying to change the subject yet again. This is very telling, just admit you were wrong on what you thought it meant. It's ok, you have like 5 posters who are all posting and saying the same thing, you can't exactly hide from it. Just own it no biggie.

Again, I have the NFL on my side. Don't no what else to tell you.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:37 pm to
You didn't know what total defense meant. And this backtrack is embarrassing mate.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

Again, I have the NFL on my side. Don't no what else to tell you.

YOu don't, but it's not surprising you think you do because you also don't even know what total defense is, so there's that.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
30442 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:38 pm to
Ok, Korin. Answer this.

Defense A:
Allows 301.5 yards per game (5.1 yards per play)
Allows 20.5 points per game
Offenses convert 38% on 3rd down
Sacked opposing QB 31 times
Forced 17 turnovers (11 INTs, 6 fumbles)

Defense B:
Allows 326.4 yards per game (5.2 yards per play)
Allows 15.6 points per game
Offenses convert 37% on 3rd down
Sacked opposing QBs 34 times
Forced 23 Turnovers (13 INTs, 10 Fumbles)

Defense C:
Allows 316.1 yards per game (4.7 yards per play)
Allows 18.6 points per game
Offenses convert 36% on 3rd down
Sacked opposing QB 42 times
Forced 27 turnovers (14 INTs, 13 Fumbles)

Which one is the best defense?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

Again, I have the NFL on my side. Don't no what else to tell you.

On the page you keep linking, the "NFL" has Scoring below field goals and punts, are you insinuating that the NFL thinks scoring offense is LESS important than those things?


Must suck to have to choose between boxing yourself in or choosing something absurd...but I know you won't actually answer the question, so there's that.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 5:43 pm
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:40 pm to
Whichever one has the best "total" defense of course. Why didn't you provide that key stat?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

Ok, Korin. Answer this.

Defense A:
Allows 301.5 yards per game (5.1 yards per play)
Allows 20.5 points per game
Offenses convert 38% on 3rd down
Sacked opposing QB 31 times
Forced 17 turnovers (11 INTs, 6 fumbles)

Defense B:
Allows 326.4 yards per game (5.2 yards per play)
Allows 15.6 points per game
Offenses convert 37% on 3rd down
Sacked opposing QBs 34 times
Forced 23 Turnovers (13 INTs, 10 Fumbles)

Defense C:
Allows 316.1 yards per game (4.7 yards per play)
Allows 18.6 points per game
Offenses convert 36% on 3rd down
Sacked opposing QB 42 times
Forced 27 turnovers (14 INTs, 13 Fumbles)

Which one is the best defense?

It's a combination of all of them. Saying that total defense is "useless" is just plain ignorant.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

On the page you keep linking, the "NFL" has Scoring below field goals and punts, are you insinuating that the NFL thinks scoring offense is LESS important than those things?

They don't have that at all. Troll on though.

Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4991 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

Korin


You seem like an intelligent, scholarly fellow
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:05 pm to
I'm starting to think you're not trolling at all. You really are this stupid. I like how you conveniently cropped out the section of the website that he was talking about.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

They don't have that at all. Troll on though.
Tell me more about my trolling, please. And whatever you do, keep avoiding the questions by calling me a troll, no one can see through it at all, you're doing just fine!!




ETA: If you can't see it, you can click here and see proof of the troll proving you wrong:

LINK












So again, answer the question. Does the NFL think punting and field goals are more important than scoring? Yes or no?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

I'm starting to think you're not trolling at all. You really are this stupid. I like how you conveniently cropped out the section of the website that he was talking about.

Funny that he's been linking the site over and over and you found this immediately and he didn't.

Or did he find it but think no one else would call him on it when I proved him wrong?
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:06 pm to
What will blow his mind... Tell him to click on game stats. The first column listed will be points/game. Ouch Korin Ouch.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

What will blow his mind... Tell him to click on game stats. The first column listed will be points/game. Ouch Korin Ouch.

And boom!!!

Doubtful he comes back after these couple of posts, other than to just say I'm trolling but zero chance he actually concedes that he was wrong, which is the only thing left to do.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

You seem like an intelligent, scholarly fellow

Thanks.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

I'm starting to think you're not trolling at all. You really are this stupid. I like how you conveniently cropped out the section of the website that he was talking about.

You used a different page from what I was linking.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:11 pm to
He won't concede anything. This is the same guy that tried to make his argument about which defensive stat to use for a comparison of 4 all time great QB's by saying this:
quote:

What if your team has a shitty offense that always turns the ball over or leaves the defense in short field situations?
. Like that is relevant to the discussion.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Tell me more about my trolling, please. And whatever you do, keep avoiding the questions by calling me a troll, no one can see through it at all, you're doing just fine!!

ETA: If you can't see it, you can click here and see proof of the troll proving you wrong:

So again, answer the question. Does the NFL think punting and field goals are more important than scoring? Yes or no?

That's not the page I was linking at all.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:12 pm to
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And boom!!!

Doubtful he comes back after these couple of posts, other than to just say I'm trolling but zero chance he actually concedes that he was wrong, which is the only thing left to do.

Not the same page at all. Boom, indeed.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Like that is relevant to the discussion.

Tell us more how total defense is "useless" even though it's on the NFL page.
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