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re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense

Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Not the same page at all. Boom, indeed.

So...since it's on a different page the order is not in order of importance? Is that what you're saying?



And also, it IS on the same page.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 6:13 pm
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:13 pm to
This is an outright lie. The page you linked has drop down boxes at the bottom of the page to sort various things.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

This is an outright lie. The page you linked has drop down boxes at the bottom of the page to sort various things.

And I'm trolling, he says.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:14 pm to
I never said it was "useless". Try to keep up with who said what. Or is that too much to ask of you, liar.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Let us know what what you come up with, post the numbers.

Well well well...now I know exactly WHY he ignored total defense and thinks it's "useless."

Peyton #14.8 or #15
Rodgers #16.3 or #16
Brady #16.5 or #17
Brees #21.7 or #22

If anything, it shows Brees has been hamstrung the most.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:18 pm to
Pride, are you going to fact check?

It may be right but after this series of pages, I don't think anyone posting in this thread is going to have much trust in your numbers, for good reason.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:19 pm to
I used the NFL. Check 'em yourself (warning, giant wall of text incoming)

BRADY
01 #24 334.5
02 #23 336.1
03 #07 291.6
04 #09 310.8
05 #26 330.2
06 #06 294.4
07 #04 288.3

09 #11 320.2
10 #25 366.5
11 #31 411.1
12 #25 373.2
13 #26 373.1
14 #13 344.1
15 #09 339.4
16 #08 326.4
16.466666666666666666666666666667
#16.5 or #17

BREES
02 #30 377.1
03 #27 349.6
04 #18 335.0
05 #13 309.2
06 #11 307.3
07 #26 348.1
08 #23 339.5
09 #25 357.8
10 #04 306.2
11 #24 368.4
12 #32 440.1
13 #04 305.7
14 #31 384.0
15 #31 413.4
16 #27 375.4
21.733333333333333333333333333333
#21.7 or #22

PEYTON
98 #29 364.8
99 #15 326.3
00 #21 334.8
01 #29 357.2
02 #08 306.8
03 #11 299.3
04 #29 370.6
05 #11 307.1
06 #21 332.2
07 #03 279.7
08 #11 310.9
09 #18 339.2
10 #20 341.6

12 #02 290.8
13 #19 356.0
14 #03 305.2
15 #01 283.1
14.764705882352941176470588235294
#14.8 or #15

RODGERS
08 #20 334.3
09 #02 284.4
10 #05 309.1
11 #32 411.6
12 #11 336.8
13 #25 372.2
14 #15 346.4
15 #15 346.7
16 #22 363.9
16.333333333333333333333333333333
#16.3 or #16
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:20 pm to
Probably because points are what win and lose games
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:21 pm to
At him thinking anyone would trust his numbers. The dude is a straight up liar. Trolling/stupid/whatever. He's a liar. Don't really care what numbers he pulls out his arse at this point.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:22 pm to

What defense would you prefer, one that is 16th in total defense and top 7 in scoring or one that is 15th in total defense and 15th in scoring defense?

Who are you taking?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111336 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:44 pm to
I honestly don't care if he is making up the numbers

Scoring defense is what matters in regards to wins/losses

The GOAT Belichick literally designs his defense for bend don't break
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

At him thinking anyone would trust his numbers. The dude is a straight up liar. Trolling/stupid/whatever. He's a liar. Don't really care what numbers he pulls out his arse at this point.

Check them with the NFL if you're that upset.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

I honestly don't care if he is making up the numbers

Scoring defense is what matters in regards to wins/losses

The GOAT Belichick literally designs his defense for bend don't break

So do you still think total defense is "useless" like you said?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111336 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:47 pm to
It is useless. Yes. That is why the GOAT coach doesn't give a frick about it
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

What defense would you prefer, one that is 16th in total defense and top 7 in scoring or one that is 15th in total defense and 15th in scoring defense?

Who are you taking?

How come you used 7 and 15 instead of 16 and 15?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111336 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:50 pm to
Dude we all know what you are doing. You are actually a good poster

You thought total defense meant something it didn't

When you were proven incorrect, you are now posting nonsense to try and act like you are trolling the whole time. It's a bad look korin
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:52 pm to
5/10, at best.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:10 pm to
Your own charts kinda defeats your assertion

2013 - Saints best defense ever under Brees (L in division. Also, lost 4 of last 7 games)

'05, '07, '12 - Manning had his best defenses ever (L in division x2, L wild card)

2006 - Brady had one of his best defenses ever, and lost to the Colts (L conf champ to defense ranked #23)

Rodgers is the only one to win with his best defense. But to see how his D has ranked over the years, and GB be competitive, AR12 is the shite!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

How come you used 7 and 15 instead of 16 and 15?
How come you're avoiding the question?

When you look to scoring defense plus total defense, which defense would you prefer?

Or would u prefer to dodge the question again...
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