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re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:12 pm to Korin
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:12 pm to Korin
quote:So...since it's on a different page the order is not in order of importance? Is that what you're saying?
Not the same page at all. Boom, indeed.
And also, it IS on the same page.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:13 pm to Korin
This is an outright lie. The page you linked has drop down boxes at the bottom of the page to sort various things.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:13 pm to monkeybutt
quote:And I'm trolling, he says.
This is an outright lie. The page you linked has drop down boxes at the bottom of the page to sort various things.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:14 pm to Korin
I never said it was "useless". Try to keep up with who said what. Or is that too much to ask of you, liar.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:15 pm to shel311
quote:
Let us know what what you come up with, post the numbers.
Well well well...now I know exactly WHY he ignored total defense and thinks it's "useless."
Peyton #14.8 or #15
Rodgers #16.3 or #16
Brady #16.5 or #17
Brees #21.7 or #22
If anything, it shows Brees has been hamstrung the most.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:18 pm to Korin
Pride, are you going to fact check?
It may be right but after this series of pages, I don't think anyone posting in this thread is going to have much trust in your numbers, for good reason.
It may be right but after this series of pages, I don't think anyone posting in this thread is going to have much trust in your numbers, for good reason.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:19 pm to shel311
I used the NFL. Check 'em yourself (warning, giant wall of text incoming)
BRADY
01 #24 334.5
02 #23 336.1
03 #07 291.6
04 #09 310.8
05 #26 330.2
06 #06 294.4
07 #04 288.3
09 #11 320.2
10 #25 366.5
11 #31 411.1
12 #25 373.2
13 #26 373.1
14 #13 344.1
15 #09 339.4
16 #08 326.4
16.466666666666666666666666666667
#16.5 or #17
BREES
02 #30 377.1
03 #27 349.6
04 #18 335.0
05 #13 309.2
06 #11 307.3
07 #26 348.1
08 #23 339.5
09 #25 357.8
10 #04 306.2
11 #24 368.4
12 #32 440.1
13 #04 305.7
14 #31 384.0
15 #31 413.4
16 #27 375.4
21.733333333333333333333333333333
#21.7 or #22
PEYTON
98 #29 364.8
99 #15 326.3
00 #21 334.8
01 #29 357.2
02 #08 306.8
03 #11 299.3
04 #29 370.6
05 #11 307.1
06 #21 332.2
07 #03 279.7
08 #11 310.9
09 #18 339.2
10 #20 341.6
12 #02 290.8
13 #19 356.0
14 #03 305.2
15 #01 283.1
14.764705882352941176470588235294
#14.8 or #15
RODGERS
08 #20 334.3
09 #02 284.4
10 #05 309.1
11 #32 411.6
12 #11 336.8
13 #25 372.2
14 #15 346.4
15 #15 346.7
16 #22 363.9
16.333333333333333333333333333333
#16.3 or #16
BRADY
01 #24 334.5
02 #23 336.1
03 #07 291.6
04 #09 310.8
05 #26 330.2
06 #06 294.4
07 #04 288.3
09 #11 320.2
10 #25 366.5
11 #31 411.1
12 #25 373.2
13 #26 373.1
14 #13 344.1
15 #09 339.4
16 #08 326.4
16.466666666666666666666666666667
#16.5 or #17
BREES
02 #30 377.1
03 #27 349.6
04 #18 335.0
05 #13 309.2
06 #11 307.3
07 #26 348.1
08 #23 339.5
09 #25 357.8
10 #04 306.2
11 #24 368.4
12 #32 440.1
13 #04 305.7
14 #31 384.0
15 #31 413.4
16 #27 375.4
21.733333333333333333333333333333
#21.7 or #22
PEYTON
98 #29 364.8
99 #15 326.3
00 #21 334.8
01 #29 357.2
02 #08 306.8
03 #11 299.3
04 #29 370.6
05 #11 307.1
06 #21 332.2
07 #03 279.7
08 #11 310.9
09 #18 339.2
10 #20 341.6
12 #02 290.8
13 #19 356.0
14 #03 305.2
15 #01 283.1
14.764705882352941176470588235294
#14.8 or #15
RODGERS
08 #20 334.3
09 #02 284.4
10 #05 309.1
11 #32 411.6
12 #11 336.8
13 #25 372.2
14 #15 346.4
15 #15 346.7
16 #22 363.9
16.333333333333333333333333333333
#16.3 or #16
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:20 pm to Korin
Probably because points are what win and lose games 
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:21 pm to shel311
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:22 pm to Korin
What defense would you prefer, one that is 16th in total defense and top 7 in scoring or one that is 15th in total defense and 15th in scoring defense?
Who are you taking?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:44 pm to TH03
I honestly don't care if he is making up the numbers
Scoring defense is what matters in regards to wins/losses
The GOAT Belichick literally designs his defense for bend don't break
Scoring defense is what matters in regards to wins/losses
The GOAT Belichick literally designs his defense for bend don't break
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:44 pm to monkeybutt
quote:
At him thinking anyone would trust his numbers. The dude is a straight up liar. Trolling/stupid/whatever. He's a liar. Don't really care what numbers he pulls out his arse at this point.
Check them with the NFL if you're that upset.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:45 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I honestly don't care if he is making up the numbers
Scoring defense is what matters in regards to wins/losses
The GOAT Belichick literally designs his defense for bend don't break
So do you still think total defense is "useless" like you said?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:47 pm to Korin
It is useless. Yes. That is why the GOAT coach doesn't give a frick about it
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:49 pm to shel311
quote:
What defense would you prefer, one that is 16th in total defense and top 7 in scoring or one that is 15th in total defense and 15th in scoring defense?
Who are you taking?
How come you used 7 and 15 instead of 16 and 15?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:50 pm to Korin
Dude we all know what you are doing. You are actually a good poster
You thought total defense meant something it didn't
When you were proven incorrect, you are now posting nonsense to try and act like you are trolling the whole time. It's a bad look korin
You thought total defense meant something it didn't
When you were proven incorrect, you are now posting nonsense to try and act like you are trolling the whole time. It's a bad look korin
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:10 pm to lsupride87
Your own charts kinda defeats your assertion
2013 - Saints best defense ever under Brees (L in division. Also, lost 4 of last 7 games)
'05, '07, '12 - Manning had his best defenses ever (L in division x2, L wild card)
2006 - Brady had one of his best defenses ever, and lost to the Colts (L conf champ to defense ranked #23)
Rodgers is the only one to win with his best defense. But to see how his D has ranked over the years, and GB be competitive, AR12 is the shite!
2013 - Saints best defense ever under Brees (L in division. Also, lost 4 of last 7 games)
'05, '07, '12 - Manning had his best defenses ever (L in division x2, L wild card)
2006 - Brady had one of his best defenses ever, and lost to the Colts (L conf champ to defense ranked #23)
Rodgers is the only one to win with his best defense. But to see how his D has ranked over the years, and GB be competitive, AR12 is the shite!
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:13 pm to Korin
quote:How come you're avoiding the question?
How come you used 7 and 15 instead of 16 and 15?
When you look to scoring defense plus total defense, which defense would you prefer?
Or would u prefer to dodge the question again...
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