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Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:41 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:41 am
I broke down each players team based on scoring defense. I then calulated the mean and median, as well as Super Bowl victories based on where the defense fell in the rankings
Some interesting take aways
Brady has had a top 10 scoring defense 12 times
Brees and Rodgers only 3 and 2 respectfully
Manning has had a defense ranked 21st or worse 6 times, Brees 9 times, and Brady never
Brees and Manning have both won a title with a defense raked 16th or worst, but Manning is the only one with a title with a defense ranked worse than 21st
Brady's average defense is 7 spots better than Rodgers, 8 spots better than Manning, and 13 spots better than Brees
ETA: Added scoring offense. As you suspect, the part of the game these guys actually control is neck and neck
ETA 2: Time of possession
ETA 3: Passer rating
Some interesting take aways
Brady has had a top 10 scoring defense 12 times
Brees and Rodgers only 3 and 2 respectfully
Manning has had a defense ranked 21st or worse 6 times, Brees 9 times, and Brady never
Brees and Manning have both won a title with a defense raked 16th or worst, but Manning is the only one with a title with a defense ranked worse than 21st
Brady's average defense is 7 spots better than Rodgers, 8 spots better than Manning, and 13 spots better than Brees
ETA: Added scoring offense. As you suspect, the part of the game these guys actually control is neck and neck
ETA 2: Time of possession
ETA 3: Passer rating
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 2:21 pm
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:43 am to lsupride87
I'd be interested in seeing Bradshaw, Montana, Starr, and Griese.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:43 am to lsupride87
That's some great reasearch . Doesn't matter though... Brady>>>>>>>>the other three....
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:45 am to dukke v
quote:Thanks
That's some great reasearch
quote:Fair enough. But I think it gives you a good look on how going on wins and losses isnt exactly the best way to look at things
Doesn't matter though... Brady>>>>>>>>the other three....
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:46 am to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
Bradshaw, Montana, Starr, and Griese.
Bradshaw HOF steel curtain. was top tier each of his 4 wins
Montana had a couple of great defenses.
Starr's defense was all time great.
do not remember Griese's defense. His backfield duo and WR, Warfield, were terrific.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 11:48 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:46 am to Bestbank Tiger
quote:You willing to pay me?
I'd be interested in seeing Bradshaw, Montana, Starr, and Griese
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:46 am to lsupride87
It's easy to win when you're riding on an elite defense. Or when opponent's offense make the worst play calls in NFL history.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:48 am to Phat Phil
quote:
Or when opponent's offense make the worst play calls in NFL history
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:48 am to lsupride87
So Brees has averaged the 22nd best scoring defense with the saints. Median is 25
Wow
Saints D also gave up the most yards and points per drive this season
I'd love to see a breakdown of turnovers forced too
Wow
Saints D also gave up the most yards and points per drive this season
I'd love to see a breakdown of turnovers forced too
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 11:53 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:49 am to lsupride87
1.Peyton
2.Bress/Brady
3.Rodgers
2.Bress/Brady
3.Rodgers
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:50 am to Phat Phil
Bradshaw scoring defense rankings in Super Bowl years
2
2
1
5
2
2
1
5
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:54 am to lsupride87
Thanks for sharing. Fun to look at it. Any and all research will always get an upvote.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:54 am to Akit1
Montanas scoring defense rankings in Super Bowl Years
2
1
2
2
2
1
2
2
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 11:55 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:56 am to lsupride87
Do you know why that is? Because each of those teams invested way more in offense. Belichick knew he could win with scrubs out there on offense and invest in defense because Brady is gonna get his because he is the fricking GOAT
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:56 am to lsupride87
Defense wins championships...but it helps to have a better QB than the other team
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:58 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:All of these QBs have gotten "his" no matter who they trot out their on offense with them
Do you know why that is? Because each of those teams invested way more in offense. Belichick knew he could win with scrubs out there on offense and invest in defense because Brady is gonna get his because he is the fricking GOAT
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:59 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:Brees has never played with a Pro Bowl WR, so who they hell are the Saints paying?
Do you know why that is? Because each of those teams invested way more in offense. Belichick knew he could win with scrubs out there on offense and invest in defense because Brady is gonna get his because he is the fricking GOAT
Saints Talk Answer: Brees
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:01 pm to saintsfan92612
quote:
Defense wins championships...but it helps to have a better QB than the other team
and a fabulous receiver.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:03 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Thank you. After looking at the chart, I would like a "rings guy" to explain how it makes sense to count the rings when there is this much of a discrepancy in defense, which is a unit that is on the field 50% of the time without the QB
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