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Manchin and Tuberville unveil bill making sweeping changes to college sports

Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:04 am
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:04 am
Manchin a former player and Tuberville, a former college coach unveiled a bill that has been in the works for months, setting a national standard. The NCAA would be able prohibit certain NIL deals and investigate them, it would offer players who are uninsured healthcare for eight years after they graduate and transfers will have to attend college 3 years before transferring.

Also institutions whose athletic departments meet a certain revenue threshold will be required to pay out of pocket expenses for players, and will extend two years or four years, based on the institution’s revenue.



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This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 9:18 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70145 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:06 am to
We definitely need a group of people who frick up everything they touch to start digging their hands into the muck of college athletics.

That's the solution.

3 years to transfer? Horse. shite.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:08 am to
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transfers will have to attend college 3 years before transferring.


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NCAA would be able prohibit certain NIL deals and investigate them


Can't see that going over well.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42449 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:10 am to
Do you really think the NCAA can prohibit NIL deals, that will be another lawsuit.
The only thing they may be able to rein in is the collectives.

As far as healthcare goes, why should schools have to bear that cost after playing days are over? The only thing I would support is continued care for injuries sustained during their college careers.

I do think the transfer portal should have some restrictions and that would help curb the tampering or NIL inducements to lure transfers. I don't know what the solution is though. It's kind of hard to go back once the NCAA opened the floodgates.
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1759 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:10 am to
Yea seems like that’s a sure fire way to get your arse sued trying to limit how much income a person can make off their own likeness with a willing business partner.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67897 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:10 am to
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3 years to transfer? Horse. shite.


And only 2 of those years would transfer over academically…
Posted by Carolhdg
St George, LA
Member since Nov 2022
92 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:10 am to
No
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25423 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:12 am to
I see a lot of this being scrapped in courts
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12226 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:13 am to
Setting all politics aside, Tuberville is a classless, ignorant, POS.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6918 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:16 am to
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people who frick up everything they touch to start digging their hands into the muck of college athletics


Devil's in the details. Perhaps some kind of member-school judiciary committee? There's "cheati g", and then there's CHEATING

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3 years to transfer


I think 2 years is ideal, or at least 2 FULL SEMESTERS. You have guys announcing Xfers before they complete 12 hours of college!
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:17 am to
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I see a lot of this being scrapped in courts


Some of it, maybe. But even courts know there needs to be a national standard set by Congress not something that has to wait on rich institutions to decide.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28288 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:17 am to
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We definitely need a group of people who frick up everything they touch to start digging their hands into the muck of college athletics.

That's the solution.

3 years to transfer? Horse. shite.


Every day posters come on here an bitch about NIL and how it needs to be regulated/capped. Well, the way that is accomplished is either congress passes laws relative to such, or the players unionize and collectively bargain with the NCAA (or another governing entity).

The state legislatures aren't uniform in their NIL related laws. What you have seen is that in many of the states were college sports (particularly football) are extremely popular, the state legislatures have basically codified unfettered pay-for-play (Not strictly NIL which, at it's core, means a player gets paid for use of his Name Image or Likeness)

If the NCAA tries to set and enforce guidelines to "level the playing field" relative to NIL, those efforts will almost assuredly be litigated immediately...with the NCAA likely losing every time. Remember, on a very ideologically divided USSC the justices voted 9-0 to make NIL "legal".

Does Congress screw a LOT of shite up? Absolutely. But short of the NCAA become more like the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc where there is collective bargaining, the current wild west NIL landscape will continue unless there are some Federal laws that apply to all states.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25423 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:21 am to
How can the courts allow someone to have their income capped or their ability to change schools limited?

Don’t get me wrong, I hate college free agency but I don’t see how you can say NIL is now legal but then limit it.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3652 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:21 am to
Makes perfect sense. Is college football, actually college football, or a minor league system of mercenaries and fake students?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71359 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:23 am to
Capping incomes based on someone's name, image, and likeness is terrifying.

Typical government move to see an issue, and create a law that could have insane side effects purely because people want a small change.
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 9:24 am
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18802 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:26 am to
3 years works, a commitment should mean something. Baseball makes you stay three years.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8993 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:26 am to
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The NCAA would be able prohibit certain NIL deals and investigate them,


I'm going to interpret that when they say "prohibit certain NIL deals and investigate them" that they really mean prevent bagmen essentially from just paying the kid or family but not investigate actual NIL deals such as Gordon or Canes or something like that.

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transfers will have to attend college 3 years before transferring


This might be the dumbest suggestion. I wouldn't even be in favor of making a play stay for 2 years. If the player wants to transfer it sucks but let him. Now limiting the amount of times they can transfer is 100% the right move. Which is already in place. The only other thing I would put in there is a player cannot transfer before starting their first semester. That whole situation with the Florida QB is something that needs to be prevented.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:27 am to
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Makes perfect sense. Is college football, actually college football, or a minor league system of mercenaries and fake students?


The bill is suddenly getting a lot of attention online. Hot topic!
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27802 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:29 am to
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Some of it, maybe. But even courts know there needs to be a national standard set by Congress not something that has to wait on rich institutions to decide.
The courts and lawmakers are why we find ourselves in the Wild West to begin with. It was an overreach from the start and is why the NCAA never wanted to open this can of worms.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:31 am to
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Do you really think the NCAA can prohibit NIL deals, that will be another lawsuit.


It’s more to prohibit types of NIL deals, especially from boosters, if I read it correctly.
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