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re: Louisiana regent suggests LaTech, UL, ULM drop down to FCS
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:29 am to Baers Foot
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:29 am to Baers Foot
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I've seen the Cajuns ranked #1 in my lifetime within the last 15 years.
I meant in football
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:36 am to Friscodog
quote:Grambling and Southern are untouchable, as is LSU. Who are the 2-4 to keep outside of those? North La needs one, and academic reputation it would seem LTU would be the one, would be much akin to Southern and LSU with Grambling and LTU being in the same area. Now you have the SW corridor and ULL seems the safe bet there. Then you have to have someone in New Orleans or at leat the SE portion of the state. Nichols? UNO? SELA?
The hard decision is not to degrade football programs, that doesn't solve the problem. The problem is we need to eliminate probably 10-12 of those 4 year universities and have 5-7 stronger sustainable universities with well funded academic and athletic programs. The problem is any suggestion of such at any level of the legislation in this state is political suicide and would never happen. IMO..
It has to go beyond that though. Each institution should get their own corridor and the schools under that in an independent system.
LSU: LSU, Nichols, LSUH-NO, LSU-AG/Penn
SELA: SELA, UNO
UL: ULL, McNeese, LSUA, LSUE
LTU: LTU, ULM, NWST, LSUS, LSUH-SHV
Southern: SU, SUNO
Grambling: GSU, SU-SHV
Consolidate administrations, at each 4 year and look into strengthening 2-yr and undergrads at the sattelite campuses that would feed into the flagships masters and doctorate programs. This supports the needs of the state better by still having access to education in various parts of the state while allowing the flagships to focus more on the higher degrees and research to allow them to go higher in the national rankings. 3 top 150 schools instead of 1. It would mean moving athletics from the non-flagships to D2 or D3. That is a conference in and of itself that allows for the rivalries to already be built in.
There's going to be a lot of downvotes and wahhing because your school is either recommended as a satellite, but it's the best way to progress higher education in the state as a whole.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 10:38 am
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:42 am to ItTakesAThief
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La Tech has a moderately successful program.
ULM should be FCS
ULL makes the lowest tier bowl games once in a while.
Found the retard in the room. Currently the Cajuns are on an 8 year bowl streak. Has finished the season ranked 15th & 16th on 2020 & 2021. Which would have given them a CFP birth.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:43 am to AwesomeSauce
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It has to go beyond that though. Each institution should get their own corridor and the schools under that in an independent system.
LSU: LSU, Nichols, LSUH-NO, LSU-AG/Penn
SELA: SELA, UNO
UL: ULL, McNeese, LSUA, LSUE
LTU: LTU, ULM, NWST, LSUS, LSUH-SHV
Southern: SU, SUNO
Grambling: GSU, SU-SHV
This consolidates too much under the LaTech banner, but also includes some community colleges but not others for some weird reason.
Southern and Grambling should not be any more untouchable than any other schools.
SUNO should be carpetbombed and not even combined with anyone else. It's nothing more than a Pell Grant scam and political patronage haven.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:49 am to ProjectP2294
quote:I just pulled up the colleges under each system and combined them based on geography and enrollment to make the systems as close to 'even' as I could. North La should be it's own system based on population, and doing so allows that area to target degrees and research that benefit that region.
This consolidates too much under the LaTech banner, but also includes some community colleges but not others for some weird reason.
quote:In a vacuum, absolutely. In reality, they are completely untouchable and even suggesting they be shutdown or absorbed by another school would be political suicide.
Southern and Grambling should not be any more untouchable than any other schools.
quote:To be fair is SU-SHV or half the LSU-X any different?
SUNO should be carpetbombed and not even combined with anyone else. It's nothing more than a Pell Grant scam and political patronage haven.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:57 am to AwesomeSauce
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To be fair is SU-SHV or half the LSU-X any different?
I don't really know anything about SU-SHV, but it's a JUCO and with the existence of BPCC, it probably shouldn't exist.
The various LSU schools have actual matriculation to back up their existence, even if their origination is largely because of political patronage. LSUA should go back to being a community college, like LSUE is. Some level of coordination should be happening between NWST and LSUS to not overlap degree programs but Shreveport should have a 4 year public school as one of the most populous areas of the state.
Overall consolidation of some sort is the path that needs to happen. Too many schools are trying to be all things to all people, when realistically that should be on a system basis.
I'm not picking and choosing what to respond to, I don't have anything to further the conversation the other points.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:17 am to roguetiger15
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ULL was mismanaging their funds at an egregious level and you think LSU is to blame?
Of course. There's a secret LSU-Tulane conspiracy to keep them down. Otherwise they'd win the natty in every sport every year and crush the Ivies in academics.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:28 am to Bestbank Tiger
Secret? My guy there's newspaper clippings of past LSU presidents begging the state to keep us down 
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:33 pm to Baers Foot
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Secret? My guy there's newspaper clippings of past LSU presidents begging the state to keep us down
Willis Wharton let that shite slip decades ago. Been livin rent free ever since. Don't forget the LSU rule, and the role LSU played in the death penalty.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:35 pm to Baers Foot
Wilbert Pryor is an idiot. The data is available online. UAB is the case study. Moving these schools down to FCS would force them to lose more money. It is astounding that an LA Board of Regents member does not know that and would make such an idiotic comment.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:43 pm to joshyc2
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It is astounding that an LA Board of Regents member does not know that and would make such an idiotic comment.
Is it really?
14 of the 15 seats are political favor appointments for the Governor of Louisiana. Actual qualifications and real understanding of issues at hand are WAY down the list when considering who gets these positions.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:54 pm to YoungSteele830
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The “retirement” of President Jim Henderson at Tech is certainly concerning, as he was the most pro-athletics president in a while. I feel like things could get ugly in Ruston if they bring in a Jeff Landry puppet who tries to carry out Landry’s cost-cutting orders.
I agree with all this. But Jim has also been having health problems so it’s not just like he was forced out. It was kind of mutual. That being said, I wouldn’t put it past Landry to pounce on the opportunity to get one of his guys in there
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:13 pm to joshyc2
I gotta give Wilbert credit. We have Tech, ULL and ULM fans in a five page thread not throwing rocks at each other.
It is a good thing our politicians are stupid. If they were smart they would be inciting these three schools against each other while robbing the UL System blind.
Now they have allowed the three schools to focus their aim on a collective enemy.
It is a good thing our politicians are stupid. If they were smart they would be inciting these three schools against each other while robbing the UL System blind.
Now they have allowed the three schools to focus their aim on a collective enemy.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:18 pm to Baers Foot
They should not do that.
Going to the FCS would effectively kill their programs.
Going to the FCS would effectively kill their programs.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:26 pm to ProjectP2294
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NWST and LSUS to not overlap degree programs
This is where I think higher education has failed in the country.
Let the State Universities have your Big degrees. Have regional Community colleges for cheaper 2 year classes for people to get their English, History, etc that are outside of their degree.
And have smaller colleges handling the unique specialties and not over lap
Go go a private college and pay yourself if you want an art degree, gender studies, or how to be poor for the rest of your life degrees.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:27 pm to msutiger
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Now they have allowed the three schools to focus their aim on a collective enemy.
It’s like three toddler siblings trying to beat up on Daddy
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:30 pm to Baers Foot
Agreed. Go sit in the corner, ULL.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:38 pm to 9Fiddy
Most Power 4 teams cannot keep up with the top of the Power 4. Until we have some semblance of a salary cap to even things out.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:45 pm to migui8618
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LA makes it worse for the 3 programs. No access to student fees to supplement their budget puts them at a huge disadvantage. It's some old archaic rule to protect LSU, when it would do nothing to usurp their power.
Always with the conspiratorial crap
It has nothing to do with LSU. Control over enacting fees gives the legislature and the governor (through Regents board appointments) more control over higher ed.
Why should a student be forced to subsidize the athletics program as a prerequisite for attending? I hate what schools like James Madison ask of their students.
The vast majority of SEC schools do not have student athletic fees.
Posted on 10/1/26 at 1:49 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:There has always been a concerted effort in Baton Rouge to keep the power in Baton Rouge. That is why the only two public law schools belong to the two Universities in Baton Rouge. It's also why when it was recommended twice in the last 15 years by separate independent firms that LTU absorb both LSUS and LSUH-S, the legislature said they wouldn't be doing that. Mainly because LSUS has one of the most robust online programs in the state with over 8k enrolled which is more than 200% of their in person enrollment, also the LSU system did not want another public school to have a medical school when they could keep both SHV and NOLA under the LSU system.
It’s like three toddler siblings trying to beat up on the favorite
That's just in the last 15 years. The 1960's-1990's was littered with influence in Baton Rouge not wanting to give ground to other institutions.
I understand these are not going to be popular on an LSU board, but LSU does what is best for LSU. Not the state. Not the areas service. Only LSU. The legislature is heavily invested and heavily backed by those with similar interests and no matter where a lawmaker went to school allegiance to LSU is paramount to getting things done in Baton Rouge and support. Over the last 50-60 years that allegiance has been interpreted and widely accepted as being because it is better, when it in fact is just the most protected.
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