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re: Looking for some golf advice
Posted on 12/21/12 at 1:49 pm to Francis Marion
Posted on 12/21/12 at 1:49 pm to Francis Marion
Getting from 90 to 80 was the most difficult sports related thing I have ever done. You don't realize how many gimmes, foot wedges, etc you do until you start counting every stroke.
I had time my last semester of college and decided to try to work on my handicap. I played an avg of three rounds a week, with at least two nights at the pitch and putt at LSU working on intermediate wedge and pitch shots. I got to where I could shoot mid to upper 80s consistently.
I broke 80 once, at Santa Maria, shooting 79. Basically, you have a few bad shots to waste. That means hitting a bunch of greens in regulation. That means not wasting shots, making those par putts. I had a very good day. The closest I've come since is 83, and I shoot in the upper 90s far more than the upper 80s now.
The point is, unless you are planning and doing this full time, or you happen to be some kind of prodigy, you are going to have a very tough time dropping those 10 strokes in a month. I'd also highly recommend finding someone to give you lessons that can really asses your game.
I had time my last semester of college and decided to try to work on my handicap. I played an avg of three rounds a week, with at least two nights at the pitch and putt at LSU working on intermediate wedge and pitch shots. I got to where I could shoot mid to upper 80s consistently.
I broke 80 once, at Santa Maria, shooting 79. Basically, you have a few bad shots to waste. That means hitting a bunch of greens in regulation. That means not wasting shots, making those par putts. I had a very good day. The closest I've come since is 83, and I shoot in the upper 90s far more than the upper 80s now.
The point is, unless you are planning and doing this full time, or you happen to be some kind of prodigy, you are going to have a very tough time dropping those 10 strokes in a month. I'd also highly recommend finding someone to give you lessons that can really asses your game.
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Posted on 12/21/12 at 1:55 pm to elprez00
Yea along with Harvey Penick's book, I would also get a video on the rules of golf or you will look like an idiot if you play in a tournament. I've played in a lot of tournaments and there are a lot of people who don't understand the rules that have been playing their entire life.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:56 pm to RickySauwce
1. Learn the actual USGA rules of Golf. You will be surprised what you don't know.
2. Play by those rules religiously.
3. Walk when you play. You will be surprised how tired you can be on the 18th hole, and that fatigue can definitely affect your game. If you want to be a successful pro, you will have to walk 18 holes four days in a row.
3. Find the club you hit 150 yards and make love to it. I.E., you need this to be the most dependable club in your bag - you can hit it straight 150 yards in your sleep, anywhere, anytime.
4. From 150 yards in you should always be able to get a 3; you should always be be able to hit the green from 150 in.
5. From just off the green you should always be able to get up and down. This might be the most important aspect of becoming a scratch golfer.
6. On a par 5, the most important thing is hitting the fairway - no matter how short. Even if you hit it only 150 yards, you just turned a 500 yd par 5 into a 350 yd par 4. Contrast that with the guy who pulled out his driver, hit it OB, and is now hitting his 3rd shot from the box. Or the guy who hits it 250 into the rough or woods, then chips out and is laying 2 in the fairway. If you want to shoot consistently in the 70's, you need to make the right mental choices, and this is one of them. Once you become a scratch golfer, you can weigh the risk/reward of trying to reach a par 5 in two.
7. Be able to 2 putt from anywhere on the green.
8. Spend a lot of time hitting from the sand.
9. Practice the hard shots, not just the easy ones.
10. When you go to the range, spend the bulk of your time on chipping and putting, and twice as much time on your short irons than your long irons and woods.
11. At the range, practice the 25, 50, 75, 100 shots, don't just pull every club out and hit it as far as you can.
12. Take deep breaths, and relax. I've heard that you should never swing more than 80% as hard as you can - I think that's good advice.
13. Don't drink alcohol when you play - if you are serious about becoming a pro that is. (When I play I always have cold beer, but I have accepted that I won't ever be pro.)
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Good luck! When I had time to practice I went from consistent low 90's to consistent low 80's, and half of those strokes came from mental choices.
2. Play by those rules religiously.
3. Walk when you play. You will be surprised how tired you can be on the 18th hole, and that fatigue can definitely affect your game. If you want to be a successful pro, you will have to walk 18 holes four days in a row.
3. Find the club you hit 150 yards and make love to it. I.E., you need this to be the most dependable club in your bag - you can hit it straight 150 yards in your sleep, anywhere, anytime.
4. From 150 yards in you should always be able to get a 3; you should always be be able to hit the green from 150 in.
5. From just off the green you should always be able to get up and down. This might be the most important aspect of becoming a scratch golfer.
6. On a par 5, the most important thing is hitting the fairway - no matter how short. Even if you hit it only 150 yards, you just turned a 500 yd par 5 into a 350 yd par 4. Contrast that with the guy who pulled out his driver, hit it OB, and is now hitting his 3rd shot from the box. Or the guy who hits it 250 into the rough or woods, then chips out and is laying 2 in the fairway. If you want to shoot consistently in the 70's, you need to make the right mental choices, and this is one of them. Once you become a scratch golfer, you can weigh the risk/reward of trying to reach a par 5 in two.
7. Be able to 2 putt from anywhere on the green.
8. Spend a lot of time hitting from the sand.
9. Practice the hard shots, not just the easy ones.
10. When you go to the range, spend the bulk of your time on chipping and putting, and twice as much time on your short irons than your long irons and woods.
11. At the range, practice the 25, 50, 75, 100 shots, don't just pull every club out and hit it as far as you can.
12. Take deep breaths, and relax. I've heard that you should never swing more than 80% as hard as you can - I think that's good advice.
13. Don't drink alcohol when you play - if you are serious about becoming a pro that is. (When I play I always have cold beer, but I have accepted that I won't ever be pro.)
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Good luck! When I had time to practice I went from consistent low 90's to consistent low 80's, and half of those strokes came from mental choices.
This post was edited on 12/21/12 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 12/21/12 at 5:02 pm to Tiger Ryno
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The masters is usually in april. Not sure if registration is still open yet but you may want to call them to get your name on the list
Lol. According to his schedule, he'll be shooting in the 40's by then
Posted on 12/21/12 at 5:18 pm to Lou
Great advice. I didn't pull my driver out of the bag today. Hit 3w/6/w and 3/6/6 on the 2 par 5's and had tap ins for par. Switched from Ping S59 Tours to Razr X Tours and it made a big difference this first time out. The Razr X's are about 7-8 yards shorter, but a bad shot is just shorter, not 30 yards right. Shot 41 at Calvert. Now if I could only putt...
Posted on 12/21/12 at 5:52 pm to Brodeur
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The only way you are going to break 80 is to improve your short game.
Ok you're going to here a lot of people tell you to work on short game constantly, short game is what you should work on most ect ect.... While short game is extremely extremely important, if you're in the 80-90's you need to forget people telling you this.
If you can't get on the fairway you can't have a good look at the green, if you can't get on the green from the fairway, you can't have a goo look at birdie, ect ect....
Chances are you struggle some what hitting consistent and accurate irons and tee shots. Correct these, and once you are consistent and accurate of the tee, and on the fair way with a mid iron, then you spend most of your time chipping, putting, and hitting wedges
This post was edited on 12/21/12 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 12/21/12 at 7:04 pm to TigerBait2008
If you seriously want to get better....you need to play tournament golf. The best tournament golf in the state is the Golfweek Amatuer Tour. Gmto the site and then find the South Louisiana tour. Good,luck.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 7:17 pm to RickySauwce
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19 and I want to start playing competitve golf
Define competitive?
You need only worry about "scratch". You sound like you intend on trying to do something with golf. Realize there are a shitload of scratch golfers that aren't on a tour or are not worthy of being on one.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 7:34 pm to RedShirt
I posted a link to the South Tour earlier on page 1.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 8:09 pm to RickySauwce
LGA
I grew up playing the equivalent of this tour in MS and it was the best thing I could have done. I played in 7-8 tournaments a year plus my high school seasons. Meeting some of the best golfers in the state and becoming friends with them is how I improved. Just playing with those guys and picking up little things here and there was key.
Got a full ride in college and was an assisstant pro at a course in MS.
So like I said, joining a tour like this and meeting local guys that you can become friends/ golf buddies with will go farther than you think.
When you miss, WHERE do you miss? High and right?
I grew up playing the equivalent of this tour in MS and it was the best thing I could have done. I played in 7-8 tournaments a year plus my high school seasons. Meeting some of the best golfers in the state and becoming friends with them is how I improved. Just playing with those guys and picking up little things here and there was key.
Got a full ride in college and was an assisstant pro at a course in MS.
So like I said, joining a tour like this and meeting local guys that you can become friends/ golf buddies with will go farther than you think.
When you miss, WHERE do you miss? High and right?
This post was edited on 12/21/12 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 12/22/12 at 2:21 am to RickySauwce
[quote]I'm 19 and I want to start playing competitve golf I've only been playing for about two years and only in the past month I've started playing seriously. I shoot in the high 80's low 90's but I'm pretty sure in the next couple of months I'm gonna be down to the low 80's high 70's. I plan to work hard at it. I drive the ball consistently 270 but every know and then Ill get one 300. But what I was wondering is how do I start who do I talk to ? And how good do I have to be ? [/quote
What level of competition?
What level of competition?
Posted on 12/22/12 at 8:35 am to Lou
Pretty solid advice, except having to shoot scratch to go for a par 5 green in two. 
I still don't drink when I play, and I've accepted the fact I'll never be a pro. Beer just tastes better after the round.
I still don't drink when I play, and I've accepted the fact I'll never be a pro. Beer just tastes better after the round.
Posted on 12/22/12 at 9:47 am to BRgetthenet
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I still don't drink when I play, and I've accepted the fact I'll never be a pro. Beer just tastes better after the round.
This unless I'm 10 over after 9
Posted on 12/22/12 at 9:54 am to Lou
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Find the club you hit 150 yards and make love to it. I.E., you need this to be the most dependable club in your bag - you can hit it straight 150 yards in your sleep, anywhere, anytime.
That's a very interesting point. For me, it's my 9 iron. I use it from 100-150. I'm always a little bit short from 150 but I don't trust my 8 iron. He's a son bitch.
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:45 am to Lou
really solid advice thank you
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:51 am to AZTiger7072
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:57 am to RickySauwce
Come play at the Oaks at Sherwood. We always accept new golfers out there. Also, we have the best golfers in the city. If you want to judge your game this would be the best place to get it done around here. You would learn a lot. Good luck!
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:04 am to RickySauwce
I have nothing to add...I just wanted to say good luck.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:04 am to birdiemaker
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Come play at the Oaks at Sherwood.
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Mississippi State fan
I know who you are
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:34 am to Tiger1242
And, I know who you are...
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