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re: LHSAA Select Schools Officially Opt Out of Playing in Prep Classic in Superdome
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:29 am to WHS
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:29 am to WHS
quote:Like, the entire school? Or entire schools? Is that in their catalog or mission statement?
In addition, those said private schools always thought that their shite didn't stink and thought that they were better than all the public schools.
Do you realize that simply "starting more private schools" would dilute the talent on both sides of this? IF there were a call amongst the people of Louisiana, and demand for more private schools they would open them. But those students would have to come from somewhere, there are only a finite number of school-aged persons in the state of Louisiana in any given year. Your public schools would lose students, too.
More schools would likely mean, too, that everyone else would lose students, resulting in all kinds of classification mayhem, unless smaller schools decide to "play up."
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 10:31 am
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:29 am to WHS
quote:
nope, we cant at the school I teach/coach at now and we couldn't at walker either. sorry.
I think you're confusing knowing how to and being able to.
Just because you don't know how to doesn't mean you can't.
ETA: And most public schools (specifically in South Louisiana) would improve their programs dramatically if they just recruited their own hallways.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 10:36 am
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:34 am to RedPop4
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Do you realize that simply "starting more private schools" would dilute the talent on both sides of this? IF there were a call amongst the people of Louisiana, and demand for more private schools they would open them. But those students would have to come from somewhere, there are only a finite number of school-aged persons in the state of Louisiana in any given year. Your public schools would lose students, too.
I get what you are saying, but to start a school that would be large enough to be able to compete week in and week out with the other private school programs (state champion level) take a lot of money so you would only have a school here and there get started over a long period of time.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:39 am to WHS
That's right, especially if it is a private school, how do you draw those kinds of numbers that you are inferring, from the very outset? I would think, too, that it would take four to six years, since it is unlikely that juniors and seniors would transfer out of where they are to attend this new private school which is opened simply to expand the select-school side of the LHSAA.
Most new schools, select or not, usually open with only the lowest grade, or two lowest grades, and simply add by advancement...frosh becoming sophomores and so on.
That new school that was on the game of the week a couple weeks ago, were just now getting into LHSAA competition. Lafayette area, black helmets. This would not solve the problems we have, now, keeping the association together.
Most new schools, select or not, usually open with only the lowest grade, or two lowest grades, and simply add by advancement...frosh becoming sophomores and so on.
That new school that was on the game of the week a couple weeks ago, were just now getting into LHSAA competition. Lafayette area, black helmets. This would not solve the problems we have, now, keeping the association together.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:41 am to WHS
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I played at walker high and now coach at a public school. When I played we had to play Catholic High in district and often played Park View and private schools and we never had a chance against school who can recruit. In addition, those said private schools always thought that their shite didn't stink and thought that they were better than all the public schools.
I say F the private schools. if 0-10 teams making the playoffs are a problem, then start more private schools. The split is good for both sides, you play your kind and we will play ours. It is the only way it is even close to being fare.
there it is
jealousy, envy and spite all rolled up into one nice and neat turd pile
FYI it's "fair" not "fare" Coach
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:42 am to slackster
quote:
non select playoff attendance has stayed the same.
This is total bullshite.
Ouachita had a first round game last season against Parkway and barely had 100 people. It was an embarrassment. Anyone who has ever been to a game there realizes how crazy that is.
Their attendance is so low since the 90's. There isn't any attendance in Monroe area except for Sterlington, WM. Hell, Neville can't even fill the seats. But, they have massive alumni donations and boosters who fill the void.
The lack of money is why most public's suck at football in Louisiana. I wouldn't say that is a sign if good health.
Meanwhile privates are still balling and getting better than public's. Hell, WM use to own privates outside Evangel and now they couldn't stay on the field with Rummel, Catholic, STM, Curtis, Karr. So the private school programs have improved since the split and public's have not for the most part.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:43 am to fightin tigers
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Sucks for teams who aren't within driving distance. And for anyone who wants to park for the game.
They would've driven to the Dome anyway huh...
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:45 am to WHS
quote:a few years back a non select school that won a state title did so where their leading rusher and leading tackler(2 different players) in the finals - never lived a day in their lives in the parish of the school they went to.. in fact they both lived one school district over into the next parish so they not only crossed parish lines but they crossed another in parish schools attendance zone line as well.....
I played at walker high and now coach at a public school. When I played we had to play Catholic High in district and often played Park View and private schools and we never had a chance against school who can recruit. In addition, those said private schools always thought that their shite didn't stink and thought that they were better than all the public schools.
I say F the private schools. if 0-10 teams making the playoffs are a problem, then start more private schools. The split is good for both sides, you play your kind and we will play ours. It is the only way it is even close to being fare.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:46 am to 187undercover
quote:might wanna look at the gate receipt numbers from LHSAA.... one robin's egg don't make it spring time my man...
This is total bullshite.
Ouachita had a first round game last season against Parkway and barely had 100 people. It was an embarrassment. Anyone who has ever been to a game there realizes how crazy that is.
Their attendance is so low since the 90's. There isn't any attendance in Monroe area except for Sterlington, WM. Hell, Neville can't even fill the seats. But, they have massive alumni donations and boosters who fill the void.
The lack of money is why most public's suck at football in Louisiana. I wouldn't say that is a sign if good health.
Meanwhile privates are still balling and getting better than public's. Hell, WM use to own privates outside Evangel and now they couldn't stay on the field with Rummel, Catholic, STM, Curtis, Karr. So the private school programs have improved since the split and public's have not for the most part.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:54 am to WHS
quote:
e never had a chance against school who can recruit.
Sucks, be better.
quote:
those said private schools always thought that their shite didn't stink and thought that they were better than all the public schools.
Well it's the truth.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 10:57 am to WHS
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you play your kind and we will play ours. It is the only way it is even close to being fare.
Let's hope the Spelling Bee is separate.
Jokes aside, I think this attitude is bad. Maybe schools recruited less back when I was in high school. I think it is good for kids to play the others around the district within the community.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:00 am to lionward2014
quote:since shows took over at WM how many private schools beat them not named evangel?
quote:
e never had a chance against school who can recruit.
Sucks, be better.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:05 am to WHS
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nope, we cant at the school I teach/coach at now and we couldn't at walker either. sorry.
so your reality is the standard for everyone else in the state? do you know what the word MYOPIA means?
you do realize that Association rules have to be unilateral for all members right? Just because your school doesn't "recruit" doesn't mean that public schools across the state don't recruit.
I played basketball at a public in the late 80s, coached basketball at two privates throughtout the 90s/2000s and can tell you unequivocally the difference between the two environments:
1. in the private school the kids were essentially clients, so you had to spend more time with them and you couldn't mistreat them or ignore them. You had to be way more patient
2. the kids we had in the privates were all we had, there is a shortage on people willing to send their kids to a private school and an even greater shortage of kids willing to go to private schools. So we had to make the most out of our kids with scheme, coaching, program continuity, workouts etc
3. in the private environment we pretty much interacted with the kids 12 months out of the year. Spring and summer were AAU and summer league and workouts
4. in the public environment the best players in the school didnt play for the team. Grades, apathy, bad attitudes, lack of commitment etc
5. coaches treated kids like commodities - there were always more kids coming behind you
6. we did nothing in the summer as a team - a lot of that has changed today and there are more resources and outlets for publics to get together during the offseason
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 11:29 am
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:09 am to supatigah
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4. in the public environment the best players in the school didnt play for the team. Grades, apathy, bad attitudes, lack of commitment etc
This is what I was getting at with the "recruiting the hallways" comment.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:28 am to ProjectP2294
quote:
This is what I was getting at with the "recruiting the hallways" comment.
absolutely
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:30 am to WHS
quote:
nope, we cant at the school I teach/coach at now and we couldn't at walker either. sorry.
That's also why public schools still will have no chance in the non select 4A division. Those New Orleans charter schools have that division locked up.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:41 am to TigerintheNO
Interestingly, charter schools should be Selects, right? I mean they do not have a true attendance zone like public schools, and students have to test-in or meet admissions criteria, yes?
Is not Byrd in Caddo Parish a charter and playing select? Why do L/W, Karr, and Warren Easton get classified as non-select?
Things that make you go hmmmm.
Is not Byrd in Caddo Parish a charter and playing select? Why do L/W, Karr, and Warren Easton get classified as non-select?
Things that make you go hmmmm.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:48 am to choupiquesushi
You trust everything you read?
I go to the games.
May be south Louisiana, and especially southwest has decent attendance. North Louisiana? Hell no. Absolutely no.
I go to the games.
May be south Louisiana, and especially southwest has decent attendance. North Louisiana? Hell no. Absolutely no.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:59 am to rt3
May get to watch a state title game at Evangel or Calvary this year though....gives more access to the state to watch a champ game...
Can't blame the schools here why would they not want the chance to get the gate/advantage of a state championship game at home?
Can't blame the schools here why would they not want the chance to get the gate/advantage of a state championship game at home?
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:59 am to 187undercover
quote:no but those receipts are downplayed if anything
You trust everything you read?
I go to the games.
May be south Louisiana, and especially southwest has decent attendance. North Louisiana? Hell no. Absolutely no.
i go to games all over the state...
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