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re: LHSAA developing proposals to end split or stop it from expanding

Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:50 am to
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:50 am to
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I know 100% for a fact that it happens/happened before the split but rather than snitching private schools just got on the field and played better
name a private not named evangel that beat WM in football?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:54 am to
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MVP of a non select that beat a select power in the dome well before split - lived one parish over - and 2 school districts over..... neither parent was employed by school.......


I don't remember when all the split stuff happened or who played who. But was it Karr? And them pulling kids from as far as Marrero? Because that absolutely used to happen, and it may still.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30621 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:14 am to
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I don't remember when all the split stuff happened or who played who. But was it Karr? And them pulling kids from as far as Marrero? Because that absolutely used to happen, and it may still.
nope,
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16661 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:25 am to
I miss the old 1A-5A football playoffs.

One weekend in the Dome.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:37 am to
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yeah.. but when a kid gives auntie's address and actually resides one parish and 3 school zones over and it never gets questioned..... if you think that doesn't happen - rest assured it does


This does not happen solely for the purpose of athletics, either. Certain academically elite schools in New Orleans, and other fine arts schools, are filled with students who have done the same thing. Remember when that one school Uptown was so in-demand that real estate prices were affected by the district boundaries? Remember in some cases basically equal houses directly next to each other with a boundary between them or across the street would be thousands of dollars apart in price simply due to being in the district?
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 10:46 am
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:44 am to
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“The two-day meeting closed Tuesday with past president Niles Riche of Assumption High School making a motion that charges Executive Director Eddie Bonine and his staff to develop at least two proposals to bring LHSAA schools back together or prevent expansion of the split beyond the sports already split along select/nonselect lines — football, basketball, baseball and softball.

No timetable was set, but Bonine said his staff would begin working on proposals and a survey that may ultimately be similar to one completed by schools in 2013-14, the year the initial football split began.


Eddie Bonine was hired to do this.
Eddie Bonine can NOT do this on his own or by fiat. Anything he can possibly do, just like his previous efforts, are totally in the hands of the principals, he can float every idea and they will continue to vote them down.

What else can he do?
This is an effort to oust Eddie Bonine. Anyone with two eyes and a functioning mind can see that over the last six years the principals are not on board with reuniting the Association. This gives them something to work with in order to fire Eddie Bonine for cause.

Just my own opinion here, what makes anyone think a majority of principals will NOW change their minds about what they have created?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30621 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:01 am to
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The LHSAA is a dumpster fire and Bonine is unstable.
Bonine didn't start the fire, nor pack the dumpster
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30621 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:02 am to
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This does not happen solely for the purpose of athletics, either. Certain academically elite schools in New Orleans, and other fine arts schools, are filled with students who have done the same thing. Remember when that one school Uptown was so in-demand that real estate prices were affected by the district boundaries? Remember in some cases basically equal houses directly next to each other with a boundary between them or across the street would be thousands of dollars apart in price simply due to being in the district?
yep......on all counts...
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28275 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:02 am to
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Establish a 6A for playoffs only would help. An enrollment of 1300 can't compete with a school of 2300.


Or maybe do a version of what Texas does. They have a division I and division II playoffs. Most district have 8 teams. Top 4 make the playoffs, the two larger schools go into Division I playoff and the smaller two go into Division II. It does create weird situations where a school is in different division year to year. Or where a school in the Division II playoff is larger than a lot of schools in the Division I playoff since it depends on who makes it out of your division. This formula could be tweaked.
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
6604 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:31 am to
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I don't remember when all the split stuff happened or who played who. But was it Karr? And them pulling kids from as far as Marrero? Because that absolutely used to happen, and it may still.


Not only that, I know of at least one kid from a prominent public school in Algiers who was arrested and bailed out by his coach and played in the game that weekend. Even Curtis has slightly more integrity than to let that happen, even if it was a star player.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30621 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:50 am to
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ot only that, I know of at least one kid from a prominent public school in Algiers who was arrested and bailed out by his coach and played in the game that weekend. Even Curtis has slightly more integrity than to let that happen, even if it was a star player.
Karr is not the only WB school to have that occur... even if the others were many many many moons ago
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47662 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:15 pm to
So they're gonna ask him to reunite the association, vote not to do it, then fire HIM for not getting it done?

And no, rural and metro doesn't count as "reuniting"
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5365 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:34 pm to
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The split is the dumbest thing that happened in LA sports and I cant believe that men are cool with it. I dont see how reinforcing to teenage boys that no you arent good enough but its ok you dont have to compete with them anymore is the lesson that many on this board advocate.


How is one set of rules for private’s and one set of rules for publics fair though.
People that hate the split are comparing a public school actively cheating with a private school that can follow the rules and do the same thing.

I think it’s hilarious that numerous states have a split for all the same reasons but people in LA can’t wrap their heads around why principals voted for this.

It’s not just an issue in LA.

A whole lotta travel ball mentality up in here.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30621 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:49 pm to
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I think it’s hilarious that numerous states have a split for all the same reasons but people in LA can’t wrap their heads around why principals voted for this.
in many other states it is to protect the privates from the publics......
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5365 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:16 pm to
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in many other states it is to protect the privates from the publics......

In an odd way that only reinforces my point. Splits happen because you have privates and publics working under two sets of rules yet competing on the same field of play. Inevitably one side or the other is going to think that it is unfair.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48320 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:31 pm to
I would not get hopes up for a reunification. When the publics split the association it only two a majority vote to amend the LHSAA constitution. Since then, the constitution has been changed. Now it takes 2/3 vote to amend. This basically guarantees that the four sports will never be reunified but also prevents the publics from splitting other sports.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48320 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:39 pm to
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I think it’s hilarious that numerous states have a split for all the same reasons but people in LA can’t wrap their heads around why principals voted for this.


It the vast majority of states, the private’s split away because they could not compete.

This isn’t a sports issue. Louisiana public schools are utter trash. Look at the public schools that compete on the same level with the major private’s - Zachary, WM, Barbe, etc.

They are community schools with parents that give a shite and administrations that are held accountable.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
11345 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:43 pm to
Private schools shouldn’t play any of them. In any sport.
Posted by Four Leaf Tayback
Member since Aug 2017
1621 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:57 pm to
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wish them the best in getting rid of this BS



Lost in Baseball State Championship to Curtis many years ago. We were a rural, public school with a bunch of us who played together since we were 5 and a good ball club but couldn’t really match Curtis with their ability to recruit the best athletes around NOLA.

That being said, I still hate the fricking split. It’s bullshite. The split has watered down each sport and you don’t get a “legit champ”. Just my opinion though. All these split championships should have an asterisk next to it
Posted by CyrustheVirus
Member since Jan 2013
2870 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:01 pm to
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Lost in Baseball State Championship to Curtis many years ago.


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