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re: LHSAA developing proposals to end split or stop it from expanding

Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:40 am to
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:40 am to
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All the private’s had to do is be a little more transparent and this never would’ve happened in the first place


elaborate
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:44 am to
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And yet we have the split because two schools of 400 dominated the state for decades.


Despite the publics recruiting. Hey I guess if you can’t beat em take your ball and go home....wait a sec
recruiting doesn't have near the impact that hold backs do... and coaching staff consistency(little turnover)
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:48 am to
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recruiting doesn't have near the impact that hold backs do...


I’m fine with eliminating holdbacks. You better make it a hard line though. You can’t have the age limit to allow for someone failing a grade too. Some parents would be willing to let their kid fail a year to achieve the same result as holding back does now.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:51 am to
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Establish a 6A for playoffs only would help. An enrollment of 1300 can't compete with a school of 2300.



Yet, non-select schools are limited to a predefined attendance zone and expected to compete with schools that can offer scholly's to any player in the state
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:55 am to
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I’m fine with eliminating holdbacks. You better make it a hard line though. You can’t have the age limit to allow for someone failing a grade too. Some parents would be willing to let their kid fail a year to achieve the same result as holding back does now
yep... or be tight with a doctor that will sign off on a medical waver -
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:56 am to
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Yet, non-select schools are limited to a predefined attendance zone and expected to compete with schools that can offer scholly's to any player in the state
yeah.. but when a kid gives auntie's address and actually resides one parish and 3 school zones over and it never gets questioned..... if you think that doesn't happen - rest assured it does
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:58 am to
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All the private’s had to do is be a little more transparent and this never would’ve happened in the first place


elaborate


Many of the star players for private schools receive financial aid. Some don't pay at all. It's a shady practice determining who gets the $$$ usually.

I've been in the room watching a principal work out an off the books arrangement for a star athlete that no other student would have received. Principal had one "book" showing all of the financial aid packages suitable for administrative review and another listing the private agreements to be kept "off the record"

Again, I was in the room...I saw it happen
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60287 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:58 am to
Like I said though, teacher’s kids are allowed to attend schools outside their zone everyday. No one bats an eye. So why not just do that for everyone?
Posted by LSUalum2000
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:59 am to
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Is softball still split?


yes
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:00 am to
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yeah.. but when a kid gives auntie's address and actually resides one parish and 3 school zones over and it never gets questioned..... if you think that doesn't happen - rest assured it does



One is a violation of state law and can lead to jail time. Out of District investigations have subpoena power... The other does not
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:02 am to
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Like I said though, teacher’s kids are allowed to attend schools outside their zone everyday. No one bats an eye. So why not just do that for everyone?



Do you want EBR kids attending Ascension Parish schools when your property tax $ is funding the school and theirs is not?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17131 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:04 am to
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Many of the star players for private schools receive financial aid. Some don't pay at all. It's a shady practice determining who gets the $$$ usually.

I've been in the room watching a principal work out an off the books arrangement for a star athlete that no other student would have received. Principal had one "book" showing all of the financial aid packages suitable for administrative review and another listing the private agreements to be kept "off the record"

Again, I was in the room...I saw it happen


I don't have a problem with HS athletes receiving scholarships and competing for their schools. Just do it in a league where everyone has the opportunity to recruit/scholarship.

Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30527 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:18 am to
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yeah.. but when a kid gives auntie's address and actually resides one parish and 3 school zones over and it never gets questioned..... if you think that doesn't happen - rest assured it does


One is a violation of state law and can lead to jail time. Out of District investigations have subpoena power... The other does not

MVP of a non select that beat a select power in the dome well before split - lived one parish over - and 2 school districts over..... neither parent was employed by school.......
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30527 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:18 am to
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've been in the room watching a principal work out an off the books arrangement for a star athlete that no other student would have received. Principal had one "book" showing all of the financial aid packages suitable for administrative review and another listing the private agreements to be kept "off the record"
what school
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31836 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:26 am to
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recruiting doesn't have near the impact that hold backs do


plenty of publics do that too

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and coaching staff consistency(little turnover)




and how is this helped by splitting



The split is the dumbest thing that happened in LA sports and I cant believe that men are cool with it. I dont see how reinforcing to teenage boys that no you arent good enough but its ok you dont have to compete with them anymore is the lesson that many on this board advocate.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31836 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:28 am to
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yeah.. but when a kid gives auntie's address and actually resides one parish and 3 school zones over and it never gets questioned..... if you think that doesn't happen - rest assured it does


One is a violation of state law and can lead to jail time. Out of District investigations have subpoena power... The other does not





I know 100% for a fact that it happens/happened before the split but rather than snitching private schools just got on the field and played better.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17131 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:32 am to
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I know 100% for a fact that it happens/happened before the split but rather than snitching private schools just got on the field and played better.



The private schools didn't snitch because they have 10 guys on the roster that violates the rules to the non-selects 1-2
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30527 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:32 am to
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than snitching private schools just got on the field and played better
by and large principals select and non select have always been reluctant to turn other schools in..... and they are the only ones that actually can
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17131 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:36 am to
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what school



Let's just say they are a Catholic school with a ton of titles in multiple sports.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27815 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:39 am to
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Open up the district lines. Let kids go where they want to go, but not bounce around every year. You can go where you want as long as you can get the kid to school and pick them up every day. Once you’ve attended a school you can’t transfer without sitting a year.

It’s allowed every day for teacher’s kids, why not allow it for all? Then you can’t complain about recruiting when everyone is eligible to attend wherever.

That goes beyond athletics and is way out of the scope of the LHSAA.
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