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re: LeBron James: NFL owners are ‘old white men’ with a ‘slave mentality’ toward players

Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:48 am to
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I pretty much shut down your stupid point in here already.


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Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:49 am to
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You know who football wouldn't survive without? The owners dishing out the paychecks that it takes to operate a NFL team.


Paychecks they generate from the work the players put in
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:49 am to
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I think most people recognize that if you own a business you have the right to run it as you see fit.


But they argument used against the players is usually centered around the opinion that they make millions, so they shouldn't ever bitch about money. Completely ignoring the fact that the owners make billions.


It's just odd that in a millionaires vs billionaires money fight, most people default to the millionaires being greedy.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:50 am to
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But they argument used against the players is usually centered around the opinion that they make millions, so they shouldn't ever bitch about money. Completely ignoring the fact that the owners make billions.


It's just odd that in a millionaires vs billionaires money fight, most people default to the millionaires being greedy.
and then act like the billionaires dont actually need the players even though that makes no sense
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:55 am to
The billionaires don’t need the players because they will still be billionaires without basketball or football....

99.99% of the players can’t say the same
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:55 am to
it's because this board is based in the deep south which skews far right. they are corporatists whether they know it or not and look down on workers.
Posted by RyleD
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:56 am to
It’s true, what’s there to argue? They are old white men and they own the players.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:56 am to
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and then act like the billionaires dont actually need the players even though that makes no sense

That’s because they don’t.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:57 am to
except if these owners dont want to pay the players, the players will find someone who will. truly, both sides need each other even though i generally lean on the players having more power. the players need the owners for a team and a league to exist. the owners need the players or else no one will care and no one will spend money on the league
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 8:58 am to
Youre spot on
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 9:01 am to
Basketball players need the owners for the paychecks.

Owners need the basketball players to stfu and dribble is basically what you’re trying to say.
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 9:02 am to
Well, thats not true. If it really comes down to it and the demise of the NFL would come, all of the owners are still millionaires and will continue into other industries that theyve already got their hands in. The overwhelming majority of the NFL players will be used car salesmen, at best.
This post was edited on 12/22/18 at 9:03 am
Posted by lepdagod
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 9:02 am to
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Sure there would. Football survived when Barry Sanders, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, etc... retired.

I think you missing the context in his statement ...He’s referring to Black players not superstars
Posted by lepdagod
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 9:07 am to
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The billionaires don’t need the players because they will still be billionaires without basketball or football....


So the Saints,Raiders, Chiefs, Steelers, and Bengals owners would still be billionaires you think???
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 9:10 am to
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the owners need the players or else no one will care and no one will spend money on the league
And they will still be billionaires


They truly don’t need the players at all to be rich and wealthy. The players absolutely need the owners to be rich and wealthy
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 9:16 am to
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They truly don’t need the players at all to be rich and wealthy. The players absolutely need the owners to be rich and wealthy


this is true in both the NBA and the NFL and has no bearing on this discussion.

if you want your business to be the best they can be don't you think it behooves you to foster and develop your talent rather than take the "you need me more than I need you attitude"?
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 9:16 am to
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The players absolutely need the owners to be rich and wealthy
and this is where i disagree. the players need the owners for the structure that they provide. but the players need us to be rich and wealthy. we are the ones paying their salary. not the owners

if the current group of owners did not want to pay these players, a new group of owners who do would emerge and all of the money will switch to that league

you can say the owners dont need the players to become wealthy, which is true, but we have already decided that sports are something we as a society will pay money for. a sport league is going to exist because theres demand for it. and the demand is for the players so they are going to get wealthy because of us
This post was edited on 12/22/18 at 9:20 am
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 9:20 am to
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Clay Travis ?Verified account @ClayTravis 18m18 minutes ago

Hey @KingJames you know who the real slaves are? The Asian people making your Nike shoes for twenty cents an hour.


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Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 9:22 am to
in fairness he didn't say he was a slave, but that NFL owners have a slave mentality. It's still an absurd thing to say but lets at least be accurate here.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 9:22 am to
LeBron should just buy an NFL team for $1.5 billion and let the players do what the frick they want.
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