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re: Lakers and Clippers vote to boycott the season while most other teams vote to still play
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:00 pm to WeeWee
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:00 pm to WeeWee
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If the NBA had any balls it would terminate Lebron's contract with cause and indefinitely suspend him from the NBA. They need to send a message, the players don't run the league.
Even if it did, I doubt there's anything automatic about it.
The other party to the contract (the owners) would have to enforce the provision. They may see the politics of the situation as too damaging to do that.
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 11:01 pm
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:02 pm to Lazy But Talented
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Seems like a good question for the players to answer.
Well I think the answer is, stop playing and stick a wrench in the machinery that continues to contribute to the issues they protest.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:04 pm to Foy
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Voting has never been enough to change what they are protesting against, so what else?
Voting for the right people to make change happen will always be a huge step, as policy can dictate a lot of things. There is a reason some players are taking on voter registration initiatives.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:05 pm to Foy
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stick a wrench in the machinery that continues to contribute to the issues
Cool, can you Email this vague, oversimplified solution to the owners so we can get this show back on the road?
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:06 pm to c on z
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Voting for the right people to make change happen will always be a huge step, as policy can dictate a lot of things. There is a reason some players are taking on voter registration initiatives.
No it won’t. They want you to think it will, but it won’t.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:06 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Cool, can you Email this vague, oversimplified solution to the owners so we can get this show back on the road?
No, I don't think the players need to either. I think they're doing their part to start a movement to end the issues they're against.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:07 pm to c on z
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as policy can dictate a lot of things.
will take decades to see noticeable changes dude. decades thats what they don't seem to understand. this can't be fixed in a day or a month or a year
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:07 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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The other party to the contract (the owners)
Uhh, I believe that "the governors" is the preferred nomenclature, dude.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:08 pm to Foy
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start a movement to end the issues they're against.
so not playing basketball solves the issues they're against? dude you make no sense. please stop talking unless you can explain how your logic works
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:09 pm to Mr Perfect
In fairness, he is trying to explain the players’ position. I don’t think the words exist to explain their position.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:10 pm to Foy
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Well I think the answer is, stop playing and stick a wrench in the machinery that continues to contribute to the issues they protest.
How does “stop playing” stick a wrench in the machinery?
What is said “machinery”
You’re being very vague. So I’ll ask you, like I wish some would ask Lebron, What CHANGE do you want and how do we accomplish it? Articulate the point, be very specific.
Simple boycotting, sitting in a gated mansion tweeting does nothing....nothing...especially when the tweets say “fk it, we want change”.
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:11 pm to teke184
gotcha dude.
these players are on national TV every night.. talking about voting and black lives. every single night. if anything, playing helps the issues they stand for. that's what I just don't understand about it dude..
these players are on national TV every night.. talking about voting and black lives. every single night. if anything, playing helps the issues they stand for. that's what I just don't understand about it dude..
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:12 pm to Mr Perfect
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so not playing basketball solves the issues they're against? dude you make no sense. please stop talking unless you can explain how your logic works
I think it makes sense. Take away a resource that billions are spent on and millions enjoy. That's the power that they have. Don't resume until steps are taken to abolish or reform the police in this nation.
I'm not stating my beliefs here. I'm just saying what they are doing makes sense to accomplish their goals.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:14 pm to Mr Perfect
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these players are on national TV every night.. talking about voting and black lives. every single night
I actually agree with them about voting...helll, I agree with Obama on voting, “don’t get mad, VOTE”....well, +93% of black community has voted Democrat the last 50 years...how’s that working out? So yes, vote and change the way you’re voting.
If not, you’re no different than a Californian moving away from crazy liberal policies but continue to vote liberal.
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:16 pm to bstew3006
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I actually agree with them about voting...he’ll, I agree with Obama on voting, “don’t get mad, VOTE”....well, +93% of black community has voted Democrat the last 50 years...how’s that working out? So yes, vote and change the way your voting.
If not, you’re no different than a Californian moving away from crazy liberal policies but continue to vote liberal.
I also agree with you here, however I think in cases of police brutality, voting Conservative is not really an answer here.
If Hillary had won in '16 we'd still be here. If Trump is re-elected we'll still be here. If Biden is elected, we'll still be here.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:17 pm to Foy
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:18 pm to Mr Perfect
quote:I don't know man, I've been assured by a poster here that LeBron probably has an IQ in the 200s so with him, Delonte West, and a few others I think they can solve this in a few days
will take decades to see noticeable changes dude. decades thats what they don't seem to understand. this can't be fixed in a day or a month or a year
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:20 pm to lsutiger2010
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It's not about the presidential election. It's about the local elections. And the only reason these guys are acting like this is because Orange Man Bad.
I understand the Orange Man bad argument and it is an absolute disease when it comes to mainstream liberal politics and journalism.
But I disagree on your main point. Black people aren't pissed about other black people getting shot by the police because Trump is president.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:21 pm to c on z
Fine with me. NHL and CFB are on and I'm good.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:21 pm to Foy
One, not really their resource to make that decision about.
I may work for Exxon but I can’t rally my coworkers to shut down all their plants until certain thresholds are met. I’d be tossed out on my arse for trying.
Two, if they did shut down, there is no guarantee they come back.
Ratings are down, ticket sales are down, and the TV outlets are in financial trouble. Those games go away indefinitely and those TV contracts go away and you may as well shut down the league permanently.
I may work for Exxon but I can’t rally my coworkers to shut down all their plants until certain thresholds are met. I’d be tossed out on my arse for trying.
Two, if they did shut down, there is no guarantee they come back.
Ratings are down, ticket sales are down, and the TV outlets are in financial trouble. Those games go away indefinitely and those TV contracts go away and you may as well shut down the league permanently.
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