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Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:53 am to SoDakHawk
100% agree! You'd think they would be loose and having more fun but it was the Astros who were relaxed and enjoying the moment.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:55 am to KingBarkus
The Dodgers really were hurt because Turner and Bellenger were virtually nonexistent in the series. Peterson played way over his head to counter act some of that but Bellenger got exploited down and in and could not adjust. Turner did very little save for his one homer. Throw in Puig not doing a whole lot and they didn't get enough production from the middle of their lineup. Houston got more from their lineup and deserved to win.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:56 am to Ag Zwin
Roberts pitching management was awful. Even I as a passive baseball fan thought he would start Kershaw, not a guy that got shelled a few games earlier.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:04 am to SoDakHawk
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They didn't do anything right in Game 7. I think they left the population of LA stranded on base last night.
You could argue that the Astros did basically the same thing in Game 6. If they cash in like they should, there probably isn't a Game 7.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:10 am to High C
And if the Dodgers didn't collapse in games 2 and 5, we don't have a game 6. Baseball is baseball
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:15 am to webman
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Roberts pitching management was awful
Dude needs to be sent back to the Padres.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:26 am to Ag Zwin
Darvish sucked, no doubt. But I thought Bellinger's 3 K's + throwing error to start the festivities for the Astros was the bigger story last night. When a team scores a single run w/ 10-11 LOB, it's kind of idiotic to pin it all on a starting pitcher in a 4-run game.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:37 am to Ag Zwin
From CBS Sports on the Dodgers' missed opportunities at the plate:
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1st inning: Leadoff double, later had bases loaded with two outs.
2nd inning: Leadoff single, later had runners on first and second with one out.
3rd inning: Runners on first and second with no outs.
5th inning: Runners on first and second with one out.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:46 am to 632627
Losing game 2 is what lost the series.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:59 am to Ag Zwin
Wow
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:06 am to WestCoastAg
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And if the Dodgers didn't collapse in games 2 and 5, we don't have a game 6. Baseball is baseball
Yeah it's not like the Astros have a historically good offense that beat up great bullpens and great starters all year and postseason. Was def just the Dodgers choking it away
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:09 am to WestCoastAg
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he really didn't. He wasn't the one giving up the homer to marwin Gonzalez in game 2, or yu not even being able to to 2 innings in game 3. Putting in morrow in game 5 was absolutely his fault. I'm not arguing against that. But he really didn't mismanage this series and people habe completely overreacted towards him if you ask me
gotta say i agree, for everything roberts did wrong in game 2, he made amends game 6.
Game 5 i won't blame on Roberts; Kershaw was given 7 runs and was in position for a no decision.
If i had to assign blame for losing the series on an individual basis, i'd go Yu #1 slightly over bellinger and turner, whom would be tied for 2. At the end of the day, Yu was the big mid-season acquisition that couldnt even pitch out of the 2nd inning in two world series starts.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:09 am to 632627
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Yeah but those at bats and the strategy probably play out differently if the team wasn’t down 5 runs.
Those 5 runs were all scored in the first two innings.
1st - Down 2, two on with 1 out, bases loaded with 2 out.
2nd - Down 5, two on with 1 out.
3rd - Down 5, two on with no outs.
5th - Down 5, two on with 1 out.
6th - Down 5, three hits, 1 run, with 1 out.
Plenty of chances before the game was even half over, and they couldn't cash in. That's not on Darvish.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:13 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
WestCoastAg is pretty incorrigible today. I think it's a tactic to disguise his melt.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:13 am to JetsetNuggs
quote:Asians ain't gonna like that...
LA market gonna LA market
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:18 am to 632627
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If i had to assign blame for losing the series on an individual basis, i'd go Yu #1
I just don't see how you can place primary blame on a guy who participated in two games when 6 everyday players went a combined 24/161.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:20 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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And if the Dodgers didn't collapse in games 2 and 5, we don't have a game 6. Baseball is baseball
Yeah it's not like the Astros have a historically good offense that beat up great bullpens and great starters all year and postseason. Was def just the Dodgers choking it away
Yep. Just a coincidence that the team that gave Chris sale a post season ERA of 8.38 Kimbrel 4.5 and Chapman a series era of 6.75 multiple blown saves and a collective record of 0-3 had nothing to do with the "collapse" of the Dodgers. The Astros beat up he dodgers starters they beat up their relievers and aj hinch made better adjustments than Dave Roberts. Hinch changes his formula to the real time issues.
Don't expect the guy who will believe anything that's written on fangraphs to understand that though
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:23 am to Adam Banks
I think the folks at Fangraphs would say the same thing. By traditional and sabermetric numbers the Astros had one of the best offenses of all time. The Dodgers bullpen this year was good but not great. It shouldn't be a shock to anyone the Astros scored on them.
That's not choking, that's losing a matchup that doesn't favor you to begin with
That's not choking, that's losing a matchup that doesn't favor you to begin with
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:27 am to Wayne Campbell
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Plenty of chances before the game was even half over, and they couldn't cash in. That's not on Darvish.
So if the dodgers were down 1-0 or 2-0 in the third, with 2 on and 0 out, you don't think maybe they try to advance the runners rather than play for the big inning?
The dodgers offense deserves a shite ton of blame, but the fact is Yu started 2 games, didn't make it out of the 2nd in either start. He put his team (and the offense) in a huge hole for game 7.
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