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re: Kyler Murray named Vikings starter over JJ McCarthy

Posted on 8/11/26 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by SOBmustpay
North Louisiana
Member since Jun 2026
387 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 10:00 pm to
My buddy said a few years ago, “he’s the white Jordan Jefferson” and ever since then I’ve been unable to unsee it.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43642 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:36 am to
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Darnold/Mayfield, Mac getting better at SF, etc.?
those guys actually threw the rock in college they weren’t hand off merchants


The last QB to get drafted in the first round with as little production as JJ was Daniel Jones.

And JJ is a poor man’s Daniel Jones at best.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30383 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6960 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 12:32 pm to
It's funny because he's short.
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
9056 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 1:08 pm to
Still can't believe Murray didn't take that baseball contract.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80876 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 1:32 pm to
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Still can't believe Murray didn't take that baseball contract.

How? He was a higher pick in the NFL, signed a much larger contract, and was immediately in the league.
This post was edited on 8/12/26 at 1:32 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55339 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 2:18 pm to
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The entire advantage of having a QB on a rookie deal start is it’s a huge advantage in the cap. If McCarthy is even just average, it’s a huge boom for the team paying the QB that little.


Yeah it’s a huge advantage for the cap situation but the guy still has to be able to play a LITTLE
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
1296 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 2:21 pm to
JJ going first round in fantasy again.
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
246 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 2:53 pm to
I thought he was a solid pick coming out of the draft. Pro Style quarterback. Played for Harbaugh. Sitting out his entire rookie season couldn't have helped then he misses another 7 games last season.

It took Darnold several seasons to find his way in the league. He credited a big jump in his development to sitting by Brock Purdy and working the Shanahan and his staff.

McCarthy needs this step back. Stay healthy for a season, put in the work on film and on the practice field and maybe he can catch his break.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57290 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 4:28 pm to
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I can’t believe a team wasted a top10 pick on fricking JJ McCarthy



He had a good, not great game against Bama in the playoff, and all of a sudden espn and (some) nfl front offices thought that that meant he was worthy of a 1st round pick.

However, that game was the only game in his last 6 where he threw for over 200 yards. Matter of fact, the only teams he threw over 200 yards against in 2024 were ECU, UNLV, Rutgers, Minnesota, Indiana, Mich St, and Purdue.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57290 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 4:33 pm to
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It took Darnold several seasons to find his way in the league.


If you watched Darnold in college, you could clearly see that he had the stuff to be an NFL qb. His performance in the Rose Bowl against PSU was insane. Dude threw for 453 yards and 5 TDs. McCarthy never came close to having a performance like that at Michigan.

Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83904 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 4:35 pm to
McCarthy was so good for Michigan that they handed the ball off like 30 straight times against Penn State and still won by 2 scores
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
246 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 4:46 pm to
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If you watched Darnold in college, you could clearly see that he had the stuff to be an NFL qb. His performance in the Rose Bowl against PSU was insane. Dude threw for 453 yards and 5 TDs. McCarthy never came close to having a performance like that at Michigan.


McCarthy never needed a performance like that at Michigan.

Why it took Darnold so long, who knows, but I'm just saying sometimes it takes a guy a while and sometimes it's the right situation that's needed. McCarthy may or may not come back around even with that.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57290 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 4:50 pm to
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McCarthy never needed a performance like that at Michigan.


Definitely could have used a performance like that against TCU in 2022.


quote:

Why it took Darnold so long, who knows, but I'm just saying sometimes it takes a guy a while and sometimes it's the right situation that's needed.



I agree with you here.
This post was edited on 8/12/26 at 6:04 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71130 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 4:53 pm to
Kyler has never been bad in the NFL. He’s just been stuck on a crappy franchise in a goated division and had some injury problems.
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
246 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 4:54 pm to
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Definitely could have used a performance like against TCU in 2022.



Touche. I didn't think they'd have the trouble they did against TCU.
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
5606 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 12:03 pm to
Who would have thought that a college QB with 2700 yards and 2900 in 2 years as a starter would not make it in the NFL as a starting QB?
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